Dear Angela,
We have in Israel only some fragments from Roman Moyat Awad, but it is still
in press
Yours
M Kislev
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From: "Angela Schlumbaum" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: forwarding question on Lagenaria in Near East
>
> Dear All
> I am forwarding a question from Andrew Clarke about bottle gourd and I
> would be interested in your answers as well!! In particular any answer on
> the shapes of bottle gourd seed fragments from NEar East and African
> excavations!
>
> best wishes from Basel
> Angela
>
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> *Gesendet:* Montag, 13. April 2009 00:37
> *An:* [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
> *Betreff:* RE: workshop Turkey
>
>
>
> Dear Benjamin and Hakan,
>
>
>
> When I thought I might be able to attend the workshop one of the things I
> wanted to talk about was the presence of bottle gourd (//Lagenaria
> siceraria//) in the Fertile Crescent. Specifically, whether any of the
> archaeobotanists have come across bottle gourd remains (seeds or rind
> fragments) while working in the area.
>
>
>
> I am currently developing a model for global bottle gourd dispersal. The
> bottle gourd is thought to have originated in Africa but is found in
> domesticated form in China/Japan by about 10,000 yr BP. This means either
> it was domesticated outside of East Asia (e.g., in Africa or the Middle
> East) but spread there as a domesticate, or it spread to East Asia as a
> wild plant and was subsequently domesticated. Under the first scenario
> (and also possibly the second one), it is possible that bottle gourd was
> present in the Fertile Crescent at the same time cereals were being
> domesticated.
>
>
>
> At the moment I only have bottle gourd as early as 4,000 yr BP in Egypt,
> Zambia and South Africa, and I have no dates at all for the Middle East. I
> wanted to ask you both if you know of any bottle gourd in Fertile Crescent
> archaeological sites, or alternatively the contact details of
> archaeobotanists/archaeologists working in the area who might be able to
> help.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help, and best wishes for a successful workshop.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. Angela Schlumbaum
> Archaeobiology
> Lecturer Biomolecular Archaeology
> Institute of Prehistory and Archaeological Science
> University of Basel
> Spalenring 145 CH-4055
> Basel Tel.: 0041 61
> 201 02 18
>
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