I believe that a consideration amount of frustration has been spawned by
hegemonistic entities of all stripes. The kinds of power games you
reference, Jon, can be horrible. With Barry, I would say that there is a
great deal of value, not only performative, but constructive in an even
broader sense, from some of the texts that begin with or act from beneath
the covers of (multi-meanings intended :)) pedantic sprees sanctioned at
various voguish points in history.
Sheila
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Barry Alpert <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> I'm still waiting to learn which other category is your "Live End", though
> I suspect it must
> be "the classics in paraphrase." As for "lectures which are no use to
> anybody", I've
> argued that the "lecture-poems" of Gertrude Stein, Buckminster Fuller, John
> Cage, and
> David Antin have generated considerable performative activity in both
> literature and the
> other arts. One choice example which comes to mind would be the verbal
> interplay
> amongst George Quasha, Charles Stein, and Gary Hill, both in videotape and
> in print,
> which no aesthetic historian would term "language poetry".
>
> Barry Alpert
>
>
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:31:09 -0500, Jon Corelis <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> >Though it may seem a long way from these language (I use the term in a
> >broad sense) poets to the various political and mainstream academic
> >schools, all three of these major current English language poetry
> >categories have in common that they produce poems with the implicit
> >preface, "Here is how you should write poetry." In other words, they
> >are lectures which are of no use to anybody. I must cede that at
> >least the language school's poems don't add the implicit afterword of
> >current political poems -- "And if you criticize that, you are a
> >clod," --- or of the academic ones -- "Can I have tenure now?"
> >
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> >
> > Jon Corelis http://jcorelis.googlepages.com/joncorelis
> >
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