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Re: RIPA and Councils

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Simon Howarth <[log in to unmask]>

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Simon Howarth <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:11:49 -0000

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Actually, whilst when born, dogs do not have RFID technology, they often
gain this as a puppy as in insert into the scruff of their necks so that
they may be scanned and identified if lost... Many vets and certainly dogs
charities provide this service for free or for a donation. I suppose this is
only useful if you catch the dog in the act, in which case the point is moot
(or mutt!?)

I agree that dog fouling is a pain, but I am not entirely sure if RIPA needs
to invoked for such an "investigation" does it?

Simon Howarth.

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Antoinette Carter
Sent: 11 March 2009 11:21
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] RIPA and Councils

Does make for interesting reading.  As for dog fouling, I think that
actually this genuinely affects peoples quality of life, as well as
their physical health, however, I'm none the wiser as to what
information Councils could be requesting in order to track down the
owners of dogs that foul pavements.... Do mutts these days come supplied
with RFID technology?  Do people give their pets their own mobile phones
to text their puppy pals?  (Sorry, went off on a bit of a tangent
there!)  I think a combination of neighbour whistle-blowing (I certainly
know whose dog it is keeps ****ing in my garden) along with DNA analysis
of the evidence would soon solve the issue.... :)


Antoinette Carter
Consultant, Information Governance
Information and Knowledge Management Team
Global Information Systems (GIS)
Tel: ++44 (0)207 389 4016
Fax: ++44 (0)207 389 4754
Email: [log in to unmask]

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Hasan
Sent: 11 March 2009 10:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [data-protection] RIPA and Councils

Colleagues

I have just across this FAQ page on the Home Office website on RIPA and
local authorities:

http://security.homeoffice.gov.uk/ripa/communications-data/RIPA-and-loca
l-authorities/

The most interesting part is this:

"Home Office Minister Vernon Coaker explained to the House of Lords
Constitutional Committee on 19 November 2008 that the government was
clear that the use of RIPA techniques for trivial matters such as dog
fouling or putting refuse bins out a day early was not proportionate."

I am sure that most environmental health departments will disagree that
such matters are trivial. Dog fouling (actually the owner not picking it
up)is a criminal offence.


Regards

Ibrahim Hasan
Director
Act Now Training Limited

www.actnow.org.uk

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