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Subject:

Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule

From:

Pauline Sumner <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

Date:

Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:48:48 +0000

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I find this so strange that we are trying very hard to provide a
professional service for our students,  yet still we are asking the same
questions for which we are no clearer about answers!! 
Pauline 	


-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alice Kemble-Davies
Sent: 05 February 2009 13:37
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule

Sorry, I should clarify that question further in light of the responses.
If
an HE is providing support in anticipation of DSA, usually 10 weeks will
have
passed before the process is complete.   Will funding authorities
therefore
accept applications for 1-1 extensions prior to getting the needs
assessment?

Thanks again, 
Alice 



-----Original Message-----
From: Alice Kemble-Davies 
Sent: 05 February 2009 13:31
To: 'Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.'
Subject: RE: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule

Going back to Peter's original query about the dilemma of HE's providing
support in anticipation of DSA being approved, and the limitations now
presented in this context by the 10 hour rule - can anyone shed any
light?

Many thanks, 

Alice 

-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Palfreman-Kay
Sent: 05 February 2009 11:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule

Thanks John for below. Could you provide a bit more information about
the
letter you have mentioned below?

Many thanks

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Conway
Sent: 05 February 2009 10:03
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule

as Chris Dunlop is a member of this email forum and has signed a letter
explaining the procedure, perhaps he might circulate it and explain its
meaning to us all???  we really must have an end to rumours and
confusion,
PLEASE!

Dr John S Conway BSc PhD FGS FRGS FHEA MNADP
Director, MSc International Rural Development
Director, BSc Countryside Management
Chair, Research Committee
Principal Lecturer : Soil & Earth Science
Disability Officer
Royal Agricultural College,
Cirencester, Glos GL7 6JS
tel 01285 652531 fax 01285 650219

________________________________

From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on
behalf of Claire Wickham
Sent: Thu 05/02/2009 09:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule



Yes...exactly Ros: we need to send off such a request and have so far
been
unable to obtain   clarification of the procedure and to whom the
eventual
decision will be communciated. If anyone has solved this I'd love to
know the
answer.

with thanks,

Claire


-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on
behalf of Ros Lehany
Sent: Wed 04/02/2009 17:01
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule

It's my understanding from several sources, including Elaine Urquhart,
that there is no limit to how many hours can be recommended by a Needs
Assessor but that only 10 hours will be granted initially. Extra hours
will need to be requested at a later date (and in this case it could be
immediately ) and will need to be backed up by written evidence of need.
In the future this evidence is likely to be a standardised ILP.

What isn't clear, and what I am trying to find out, is where this
request goes. To SLC/LA or back to the Needs Assessor?

Ros

Ros Lehany
Chair- Association of Dyslexia Specialists in Higher Education

email: [log in to unmask]
Work: 0113 2193038
Mobile: 0779 149 4690

-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Hill
Sent: 03 February 2009 16:49
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule

Hi

I'm running into some difficulty with one of the HEIs whose students I
do Needs Assessments for.  The disability service there is particularly
supportive and proactive.  As a result, they often provide 1-1 dyslexia
support on faith - before the student has gone through the DSA process.
Consequently, I am assessing students who have already received well
over 10 hours of support in the current academic year.

I suppose I could recommend 10 hours - plus whatever has been provided
already.  That could be quite messy though, as I could not reliably
quantify what has been provided, as I do not know how long it will be
before the awards officer agrees things (or not, as the case may be).
Hope that makes sense!

I'm coming under some pressure from the HEI and urgently need to resolve
this.

Any thoughts and advice would be much appreciated.

Regards

Peter

--

Peter J Hill

Tel: 01905 391 547
Mobile: 07751 792711

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