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Re: Photo-card Driving Licenses

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David Spark <[log in to unmask]>

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British archaeology discussion list <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:21:08 -0000

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Alas, I'm afraid that I am correct! I am 70 in may of this year!
I thank you for making me feel 10 years younger if only for a few seconds!

Dave S

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter aherne" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Photo-card Driving Licenses


A couple of addendae to my last post.  David, I think you put the wrong year 
down, surely it is 2019!

> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:00:23 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Photo-card Driving Licenses
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> No, the paper licences are still legal, in fact I have one.
> I enquired last year about a photo licence and was advised to wait until 
> May
> 2009 when I reach 70 years of age as then I will be issued with one
> automatically saving me , I think, 50.
>
> Dave S
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ian" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Photo-card Driving Licenses
>
>
> Oh dear, tell me, I have never applied for a photo licence and drive on 
> the
> paper one - is that illegal?
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: British archaeology discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Archive of AS Pottery Stamps
> Sent: 24 February 2009 09:47
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [BRITARCH] Photo-card Driving Licenses
>
> Apologies for a non-archaeology post, but this is something that everyone
> needs to know about < a 1,000 fine is too much of a risk for any of us!
> >>
> Yours ever
> Diana
>
> Diana C. Briscoe
> Archive of Anglo-Saxon Pottery Stamps
> 117 Cholmley Gardens
> Fortune Green Road
> London NW6 1UP
>
> Tel: +44--(0)20 7794--6300
> Mobile: 07774--653 109
> E-mail: <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
> >
> > Photo-card driving licenses
> >
> > Unwitting motorists face 1,000 fines as thousands of photo-card driving
> > licences expire. Thousands of motorists are at risk of being fined up to
> > 1,000 because they are unwittingly driving without a valid licence. 
> > They
> risk
> > prosecution after failing to spot the extremely small print on their 
> > photo
> > card licence which says it automatically expires after 10 years and has 
> > to
> be
> > renewed - even though drivers are licensed to drive until the age of 70.
> >
> >  The fiasco has come to light a decade after the first batch of photo
> licences
> > was issued in July 1998, just as the they start to expire. Motoring
> > organisations blamed the Government for the fiasco and said 'most' 
> > drivers
> > believed their licences were for life.
> >
> >  A mock-up driving licence from 1998 when the photo-cards were launched
> shows
> > the imminent expiry date as item '4b'.  They said officials had failed 
> > to
> > publicise sufficiently the fact that new-style licences - unlike the old
> paper
> > ones - expire after a set period and have to be renewed.
> >
> >  To rub salt into wounds, drivers will have to pay 17.50 to renew their
> card
> > - a charge which critics have condemned as a 'stealth tax' and which 
> > will
> earn
> > the Treasury an estimated 437 million over 25 years.
> >
> >  Official DVLA figures reveal that while 16,136 photo cards expired in 
> > the
> > summer of 2008, so far only 11,566 drivers have renewed, leaving 4,570
> > outstanding.
> >
> >  With another 300,000 photo card licences due to expire in 2009, experts
> fear
> > the number of invalid licences will soar, putting thousands more drivers
> in
> > breach of the law and at risk of a fine.
> >
> >  At the heart of the confusion is the small print on the tiny
> credit-card-size
> > photo licence, which is used in conjunction with the paper version. 
> > Just
> > below the driver name on the front of the photo card licence is a series
> of
> > dates and details - each one numbered.
> >
> >  Number 4b features a date in tiny writing, but no explicit explanation 
> > as
> to
> > what it means.  The date's significance is only explained if the driver
> turns
> > over the card and reads the key on the back which states that '4b' means
> > 'licence valid to'. Even more confusingly, an adjacent table on the rear
> of
> > the card sets out how long the driver is registered to hold a licence -
> that
> > is until his or her 70th birthday.
> >
> > A total of 25 million new-style licences have been issued but - motoring
> > experts say - drivers were never sufficiently warned they would expire
> after
> > 10 years. Motorists who fail to renew their licences in time are allowed
> to
> > continue driving., but the DVLA says they could be charged with 'failing
> to
> > surrender their licence', an offence carrying a 1,000 fine.
> >
> > AA president, Edmund King said: 'It is not generally known that photo 
> > card
> > licences expire: there appears to be a lack of information that people
> will
> > have to renew these licences. People think they have already paid them 
> > for
> > once over and that is it. It will come as a surprise to motorists and a
> shock
> > that they have to pay an extra 17.50.'
> >
> > The AA called on the Government to use the annual 450 million from
> traffic
> > enforcement fines to offset the renewal charge.
>
> ------ End of Forwarded Message

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