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Subject:

Re: [Fwd: [Shib-Users] 9Star announce list]

From:

Ross MacIntyre <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Discussion list for Shibboleth developments <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:03:23 +0000

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Nicole,
I am confident that I have never asked 9StarResearch for any  
information at all, never mind asking to be added to a mailing list.
Ross

Quoting "Nicole Harris" <[log in to unmask]>:

> Thanks Jethro
>
> The UK federation is considering its approach with regard to the
> actions that have be undertaken by 9StarResearch and will be contacting
> them in an appropriate manner.  The UK fed team have moved very quickly
> to consider their options on this and believe there may be at least two
> cases where the UK federation rules have been broken.  At the very
> least, using an opt-out rather than an opt-in mailing list approach is
> unacceptable. If anyone can provide a definitive statement that they
> had not previously signed up for the 9Star mailing list and fully
> believe that their details where taken from the UK federation metadata
> that would be very helpful. Much appreciated
>
> Nicole
>
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> Jethro R Binks wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Nicole Harris wrote:
>>
>>> for information.
>>
>> But why did they forcibly add addresses without asking?  This is the crux
>> of the matter, and extremely bad practice.
>>
>> They should, at the very least, unsubscribe every address for which they
>> did not receive an explicit subsription request.  As a matter of
>> principle, why should people have to go to the effort of unsubscribing
>> from a list they didn't subscribe to in the first place?  I would expect
>> that JISC or its representatives bring pressure to bear to ensure this is
>> done.  If it doesn't happen, then they won't have learnt anything.
>>
>> If they refuse to do so, I will treat them in the way I treat all domains
>> and systems that subscribe people to lists without confirmatation.
>>
>> The number of happy people is of absolutely no relevance to this
>> discussion.
>>
>> Jethro.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject:      [Shib-Users] 9Star announce list
>>> Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:19:13 -0000
>>> From:         Antonius Block <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Reply-To:     <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Organization:         9Star Research
>>> To:   <[log in to unmask]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In response to the previous thread regarding the 9Star-announce list, we
>>> created this mailing list in response to *many* requests from the Shib
>>> managers for more information about 9Star's Shibboleth related news. Since
>>> then the response has been fantastic.  Most Shib managers have responded
>>> positively to these short, relevant messages and been eager to receive more
>>> information.  In addition, the amount of traffic on this list has been kept
>>> very light and remains relevant to Shibboleth.  We sincerely regret
>> if you do
>>> not wish to receive further announcements and will absolutely respect your
>>> wishes if you notify us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The emails that are sent are sent via Sympa, which makes it very easy to
>>> permanently unsubscribe as noted in the footer of each message.  If you are
>>> unable to unsubscribe for some reason, please email me directly and I will
>>> assist as soon as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Antonius Block
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
>> Jethro R Binks
>> Computing Officer, IT Services, University Of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK
>>
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