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My sense at the time(which may be quite wrong) that the US issue was the real context, the blocking of supply was
the occasion. But then I was never in Australia and UK leftist interpretations may have been quite wrong. So why
did the Queen put the monarchy in Australia at risk?
Thanks, Megan, for pointing out the (historical) problem.
Tom
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> As an interested Australian observer of MASSOBS I'm fascinated by your
> notion of the Queen dismissing an Australian Prime Minister over not
> allowing US nuclear ships into our ports. Who was this person? The only
> Dismissal that I know of is the infamous dismissal of E G Whitlam when the
> Opposition blocked supply.
>
> Regards
>
> Megan Peniston-Bird
>
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> > Antonio Gramsci's discussion of 'hegemony' (current advocates of US world
> > domination refer to this as the importance of re-establishing 'soft
> > power')
> > would probably be useful here for you in general terms. The monarch as the
> > 'mother/father' of the notion and the naturalisation of the 'emergency
> > powers' of the monarch (for example, declaring war and peace as being 'too
> > serious' to be left to a parliamentary decision of the children). The
> > monarchy embodies the State as being apparently 'above' mere parliamentary
> > and civil struggle, and therebye 'en-nobles' the upper classes and those
> > who
> > have 'superior class' promoting mass-inferuiorisation and 'deference'.
> > "Ruling is not for the likes of us" (compare Bertold Brecht's poem --
> > "Every
> > cook must learn to govern the State"). The 'magic' is currently reinforced
> > by the relation of mass-mediated 'celebrities' drawn from -- or
> > temporarily
> > inserted into' -- the 'Hello' magazine circles of the very wealthy and the
> > very well-connected (connected to what? The para-Court). Characteristic of
> > England (not all of the UK) is the fusion of aristocratic-monarchical
> > position and new money which becomes integrated after a generation or two
> > ("beer barons"). At the time of your study, well-connected debutantes
> > (young
> > women of the ruling circles) "came out" at a "coming out ball" presided
> > over
> > by royalty. Etc.
> >
> > I commend Antonio Gramsci From the Prison Notebooks for the concept of
> > 'hegemony' in which hard military and economic power backs up the soft
> > power
> > of 'ideological apparatuses'. The British Queen has reserve hard powers of
> > her own (dismissing an Australian Prime Minister for being prepared to
> > oppose US nuclear warships using Australian ports; declaring states of
> > emergency in which all regional powers go to Lord Lieutenants, etc. I
> > think
> > this is still correct) but these are secret and quickly given amnesiac
> > forgetfulness. The main function is to 'glamourise and reproduce'
> > hierarchy
> > as the organising principle of a formally-equal 'democracy' in which you
> > desperately want to be seen as "having class"....
> >
> > Rant over.
> >
> > Best wishes for your research and investigation into 'ruling class magic'.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > P.S. For a fun list, click on www.dothegreenthing.com.
> >
> > P.P.S. Click on www.kiafrica.org. for our 'voluntourism project' in
> > rural
> > Uganda. Our first visit went really well... We've just revised the
> > Kanaama
> > Interactive web-site, the pictures, and the things you can choose to
> > do.....
> >
> >
> > P.P.P.S. For a free electronic copy of the most recent version of the
> > Short
> > Guide to the biographic-narrative interpretive method of research
> > interviewing for lived experience [BNIM], just click on
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Indicate your institutional affiliation and the purpose for which you
> > might
> > envisage using open-narrative interviews, and I'll send it straight away.
> >
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> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > I'm hoping someone can help with good advice. I've got a limited amount of
> > time to view the M-O holdings on monarchy (Topic Collections/Royalty 1942-
> > 64/TC69: 17 Boxes).
> >
> > What I'm especially interested in is anything relating in any way to the
> > notion
> > of the 'magic' of the C20 British monarchy. Some colleagues have sought to
> > explain the appeal of the modern British monarchy partly/largely in terms
> > of
> >
> > its 'magical' or 'quasi-magical' properties. But where's/what's the
> > 'evidence' for
> > this? What do people mean when they talk of the 'magic' of monarchy?
> >
> > If anyone has worked through these boxes,is there anything I should be
> > especially looking out for?
> >
> > More widely, If you've vome across anything brilliant exploring this in
> > the
> > context of the modern British or any other monarchy, please let me know!
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Andrzej.
> >
> >
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