I like to think that too, Judy, it's certainly the way I see it
myself, unfortunately, in the socio-economic-class structure (that's a
mouthful !) that invades my life, others see it differently. I don't
know how endemic this disease is endemic to Britain, I'd emphasise too
that there are many who don't have that cast of mind, the trouble is
the ones who do.
I get very scared of psychological vampires, you get those over here.
(That's why we have Wendy Copes and Andrew Motions, those epitomes of emptiness)
Care
Dave
2008/12/27 Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]>:
> Ah, so that's it, is it? Maybe, Dave, some 'people at the top of the poetry
> tree' suffer for the way in which they've climbed it.
> For the most part, I think folks appreciate beauty and wisdom in any of
> their manifestations. If some people invest the creator of these
> manifestations with idol [idle?] worship, then they deny their own
> creativity.
>
> It also seems that most poets and other artists, inventors, etc, attribute
> the 'source(s)' of much of their productions to Something Other Than
> Themselves, whatever they choose to call it, which's inevitably humbling,
> fundamentally joyful.
>
> Best,
>
> Judy
>
> 2008/12/27 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> Thanks, Judy.
>>
>> You know of late I've become very aware of the price poetry extols on
>> its victims. I've also developed this horror as being seen as +a
>> poet+, I just want to be a human being, and the terrible thing is that
>> even those I've been closest to see me as a machine for making poems,
>> I'd rather be a bricklayer, as I've said before!
>>
>> It isn't as if I'm a famous poet, just regarded in my extended
>> backyard, how people at the top of the poetry tree cope with it I
>> don't know, I couldn't!
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/12/27 Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]>:
>> > I think you did beautifully! Besides, like the birth of a child, when a
>> > poem's ready to arrive, it will artfully confound sleep.
>> > J
>> >
>> > 2008/12/26 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>> >
>> >> Well it's the best I can do at just after four o'clock in the morning
>> >> local time, Judy! I do know what you mean about making the analogy
>> >> 'worked', that's why I left it at four lines.
>> >>
>> >> Care
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> 2008/12/27 Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]>:
>> >> > Gorgeous last line, especially, Dave. I keep wanting to take out
>> "snowed
>> >> by
>> >> > the fall of" bcuz it seems 'worked' to extend the analogy, whereas
>> 'the
>> >> > slush of waking' and 'the soft slow flakes' play----perfectly
>> balanced,
>> >> > gently startling, thought-bringing.
>> >> > Best,
>> >> >
>> >> > Judy
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2008/12/26 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >
>> >> >> Even as I remember them, they fall from me.
>> >> >> Perhaps we were once a part, apart now
>> >> >> in the slush of waking, snowed by the fall
>> >> >> of the soft slow flakes of shall we call it time?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> David Bircumshaw
>> >> >> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>> >> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
>> >> >> The Animal Subsides
>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> >> >> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David Bircumshaw
>> >> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
>> >> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> >> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Bircumshaw
>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>>
>
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David Bircumshaw
Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
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