Truncate doesnt "truncate" intensities or modify them in any way except
to apply a guesstimate of the absolute likely scale based on the no of
residues in the asymmetric unit. Truncation is only applied to the
amplitudes for negative or very weak intensities. Obv. you cant take the
square root of a negative number so this procedure keeps a (small)
bvalue for the amplitude, which is better than discarding it. weak
amplitudes/intensities provide useful information for refinement
programs as well as strong ones
If you have input I(+) and I(-) then Imean is the weighted average of
these two, but you also retain I(+) and I(-) if you want to use these
for later calculations
Eleanor
George M. Sheldrick wrote:
> Well, I suppose that it doesn't qualify as a "popular refinement program"
> but section 2.4 of the SHELX manual discusses the question of refinement
> against amplitudes or intensities. If you are refining against intesities,
> there is no need to "truncate" the data, indeed it would be definitely
> counter-productive to use TRUNCATE to convert I and sig(I) to F and sig(F)
> and then to convert these back to I and sig(I). For SHELXL it is also
> not necessary to scale the data so that they are on an absolute scale.
> I personally believe in refining against the data you actually measured
> without compromising them in any way, but I appreciate that I am in a
> small minority.
>
> George
>
> Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS
> Dept. Structural Chemistry,
> University of Goettingen,
> Tammannstr. 4,
> D37077 Goettingen, Germany
> Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068
> Fax. +49-551-39-22582
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Andy Torelli wrote:
>
>
>> To the CCP4 community,
>>
>> I have a question about ImportScaled. When I select both the "Keep
>> the input intensities in the output file" and the "Run Truncate..." options,
>> the output MTZ file contains IMEAN and SIGIMEAN values that are different from
>> the input intensity file. Specifically, the values are multiplied by 1/100th
>> of the SCALE term reported in the log file that is calculated from the Wilson
>> Plot during the Truncate procedure. However, when the "Run Truncate..."
>> option is not selected, the output MTZ file contains unaltered IMEAN and
>> SIGIMEAN values that match the input file.
>>
>> After reading the recent CCP4 threads regarding Truncate as well as
>> the program documentation, I still have a few questions:
>>
>> 1. My understanding is that this scaling of the intensities is done to bring
>> them to an (approximate) absolute scale and therefore can only be performed
>> when Truncate is run simultaneously (because the Wilson Plot is necessary to
>> calculate the appropriate scale factor). However, why is the scaling equal to
>> 1/100 of the SCALE term from the Wilson Plot (i.e. why not exactly the SCALE
>> term)?
>>
>> 2. For programs that use intensities as a target for refinement, is it
>> necessary to have the intensities scaled in this way or is it also valid to
>> use the unaltered (scaled only) intensities?
>>
>> 3. On a related note, when is it best to refine against intensities vs.
>> amplitudes? I have not been able to find recent literature that pertains to
>> macromolecular crystallography and the documentation I've looked at for
>> popular refinement programs that offer both targets do not provide guidelines
>> as far as I can tell. If anyone could recommend some literature, I would
>> really appreciate it.
>>
>> Thank you very much for your time,
>> Best Regards,
>> -Andy Torelli
>>
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>>
>> =============================================
>> Andrew T. Torelli Ph.D.
>> Postdoctoral Associate
>> Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
>> Cornell University
>> =============================================
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