Recording from a Freeview media card is covered by the ERA licence with the same conditions.
The programme title, channel, recording date, & prescribed ERA licence text must be seen to the viewers, either as a 2-3 second video insert at the beginning of the programme, or as information displayed on a web page.
Additionally, with the ERA licence, playback is limited to college premises.
There is an ERA Plus licence that allows for playback anywhere, but only to current staff & students. The ERA Plus licence is 50% more than the general licence.
Ealing Hammersmith & West London college has been recording this way since Jan 2007. The take up has been enthusiastic.
To answer your subsequent email. The recordings are stored as wmv/wma files on a streaming server, & as mpg (in Mpeg1 format) on a backup storage device.
A DVD can be burnt from the MPG file, although the quality is not high.
If notified in advance, then a copy of the raw recording from the card, in MPEG2 format, is kept temporarily for a burning as a DVD. The MPEG2 files are very large & not permanently stored (c 1.5 Gb per 60 minutes recording). The DVD created this way is practically indistinguishable from a "normal" DVD recording.
To continue the thread re TV programme requests. I have made requests to the list for programmes when the recordings are not set up, or power failure, or any of the other usual suspects. DVDs, gratefully received, are then ripped as wmv files & stored as though they had been recorded.
David Evans
Ealing Hammersmith & West London College
-----Original Message-----
From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Porter
Sent: 13 November 2008 11:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: TV programme requests
From my own experience I have often asked for off-air recordings following requests from staff for material they wish to use in class. Additionally a few requests have been made when some technical fault has resulted in the programmes have not being recorded.
The ERA licence covers, as I understand it, all Freeview broadcasts so covers BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Five (plus the various other channels) and resources such as BBC i-player, ITV CatchUp, 4od and myfive are all fine for users to access content at their own convenience, but require internet access and usually additional plug-ins. While most classrooms which don't have playback facilities can normally have a DVD or Video player wheeled into them, the insertion of a networked computer could be considered a little more tricky. Hence the request for Video/DVD from the list.
I do have a supplementary query though regarding online material.
I have a friend who records via a freeview media card in their PC and in the past they have recorded things which they thought may have been of interest. They used to supply this on VHS video but now they say it would be as easy to host the file securely online and would allow me access to download it, would this be legally allowed under the ERA licence?
David
David Porter
Librarian
Barnsley College
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Jennings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 13 November 2008 11:03
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: TV programme requests
According to Wikipedia, 30 days to start watching once downloaded then 7
days to finish the viewing once started (must make for some very complex
DRM). Downloading is only an option for Windows users, whom I know are
the majority but nevertheless...
All in all a very limited solution to what Sheila may have had in mind
as permanence and/or format shifting are not options.
Ian
Ian Jennings
Electronic Resources Team Leader
Health Sciences Library
Worsley Building
University of Leeds
Leeds
LS2 9JT
-----Original Message-----
From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and
discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Abigail Barker
Sent: 13 November 2008 10:34
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Subject: Re: TV programme requests
It seems as though when programmes are originally broadcast they are
available on iPlayer for 7 days to download, which you can then keep for
30 days, and for 30 days in total to watch 'live'. However, I've noticed
that when programmes are repeated and then go on to iPlayer you can't
download them, but you can watch them 'live' for 30 days.
Although having said all this, they do seem to chop and change and make
up the rules as they go along! Usually with something I really want to
watch....
Abby
Abigail Barker
E-Resources Librarian
University Campus Suffolk
Rope Walk
Ipswich
Suffolk
IP4 1LT
-----Original Message-----
From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and
discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Jennings
Sent: 13 November 2008 10:14
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Subject: Re: [LIS-LINK] TV programme requests
Are there not limits as to how long programmes are available via iPlayer
after initial broadcast? 7 days?
Plus, not everything is then made available via this platform.
Ian Jennings
Electronic Resources Team Leader
Health Sciences Library
Worsley Building
University of Leeds
Leeds
LS2 9JT
-----Original Message-----
From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and
discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sheila Thomas
Sent: 13 November 2008 09:18
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Subject: TV programme requests
Please, could someone satisfy my curiosity?
We seem to get a lot of these requests on the list; I was surprised at
first but am getting used to it.
However, I can't help wondering, are they not often available on the web
these days, e.g. BBC iPlayer?
(When we get requests of this sort at work, it's usually because someone
forgot to set their video recorder, or it failed in some way.)
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