Dear all

I'd note that we also have time off at Easter.

Dave 

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From: HE Administrators equal opportunities list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rajyaguru Dipen
Sent: 11 November 2008 15:13
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Subject: Re: Extra paid leave for Eid

Hi All,

Christmas is a state holiday and not necessarily, a religious holiday,
from what little I know, December 25th is the pagan festival of
'Saturnalia' and not the birth of Jesus. Although I would be happy to
celebrate both!

However, I do not think Christians should have (or want) special
dispensation even if Christianity is a state religion. There are several
arguments not in the least that we should be a secular country and may
lead to religious discrimination, but with the rise of other Abrahamic
(including Islam) religions via proselytizing, the UK may not soon be
able to argue that it is predominantly Christian.

Sorry, probably not helped, but hope to have provided some useful info!

Kind regards,
Dipen
Dipen Rajyaguru LL.B (Hons)
Health Equality & Diversity Specialist
Barnet PCT
020 8937 7709
 
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Sent: 11 November 2008 14:30
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Subject: Re: Extra paid leave for Eid

Hi Berry,

My own view (if asked to respond by this institution) would be to say
that 'Christmas'  is actually a state holiday.  The fact that a
proportion of the country celebrate it as a religious festival is
entirely incidental in 2008.  

Although, having said that, Christianity is still the state religion.
So you could argue for special dispensation for Christians because of
that.  

Nevertheless, the reality is that Christmas Day and Boxing Day have
become convenient national holidays.  Consequently, any specific request
for paid religious leave (from any quarter - in the event a Christian
asked for some lesser festival off etc) would not be granted by us as I
see it.


Regards,

Dave

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-----Original Message-----
Date:    Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:52:58 -0000
From:    "Dicker, Berry J." <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Extra paid leave for Eid

Dear colleagues,
 As I know that practice on such things may change over time I would
like to know how you would respond to a request for additional  paid
leave for Eid  on the basis that Christians get paid leave over
Christmas.  Taking these days as part of normal leave allowance is not
an issue.
 Our position has been  that these are concessionary days for everyone
and any additional leave  is part of your  normal  allowance as set out
in the  University allowances.
 What would you say?
Berry



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