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I can't put my hands on anything definitive just now, but IIRC the papal
umbraculum [aka ombrellino, conopeum] and tintinabulum came into use in the
Renaissance. FWIW, that would be the thoughts of this wikiwriter as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbraculum, which is the only reference to its
history I see in a quick online search. I suspect Noonan's _Church Visible_
would tell the tale, but my copy of that is long gone.
Given the dating, I wouldn't think to find it in Cabrol/Leclerq?
(Once my reliable daily companion, I haven't opened any of its
venerable volumes in probably 20 years.)
Stan Metheny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Crockett" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: [M-R] Tintinabulae in Chartrain Pilgrims' Badges? [<saints of the
day 21. October]
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: Tom Izbicki <[log in to unmask]>
> I suspect it would be worth looking to ceremonial from the East to
> determine
if the umbrella came from Constantinople.
this is the kind of question that an article in Cabrol/Leclercq's
Dictionnaire
would easily (and definitively) answer.
i'd go so far as to say that the answer is in those 20 vols, somewhere, but
just can't think of which article might discuss it --there is no
"Processions"
article, per se.
nor is there one on "Tintinabulum."
if anyone has a suggestion as to where to look for suchlike processional
accessories, i've got a copy near to hand.
meanwhile....
i see that the link which i sent to the Chartres badge containing the
unidentifiable artifacts being caried in a procession,
http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/forgeais/forgeais4_115.jpg
did not transmit to the list as it should have --if you're getting a "Not
Found" error massage, join the "4_" part to the "115.jpg" to complete it or
try
http://tinyurl.com/5sfhvt
i am now leaning towards seeing the objects being carried on either side of
the image of the Virgin & Child on the litter as higly stylised Tintinabulae
--the small size of the badge and utter lack of artistic resources on the
part
of the mould maker simply did not allow for any more detail in their
presentation, but the shape is, generally, the right one and fits better
than
an interpretation as any kind of conopeum/ombelino/bumbershoot.
clearly the procession which is being depicted on the badge is an important
one, with the (major?) image of the Virgin being carried on a litter --other
badge images, visible here
http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/newbadges.html
show the reliquary containing the _sancta camisia_ of the Virgin being
carried
in the same(?) procession.
am i correct in assuming that this would be a commemoration of *the* major
feast of the Virgin --Assumption Day, perhaps?
Note: Pippin Michelli's fine article, "A Gordian Knot: Notes on Chartres
Pilgrim Badges", in _Perigrinations. Publication of the International
Society
for the Study of Pilgrimage Arts_ (I, ii, July 2002, pp. 2-4), can be found
here http://peregrinations.kenyon.edu/vol1-2.pdf
c
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Received: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:10:50 PM EDT
From: Tom Izbicki <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 21. October
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> I suspect it would be worth looking to ceremonial from the East to
> determine if the umbrella came from Constantinople.
> Tom Izbicki
>
> Christopher Crockett wrote:
> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> > culture
> >
> > From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >
> >> Note the papal colors on that bumbershoot. It's a _conopeum_ or
> >>
> > _ombrellino_, the usual visible sign of a papal basilica.
> >
> >
> >> See (lower down) here:
> >> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilique_religieuse
> >>
> >
> >
> >> and here:
> >> http://www.saintspeterandpaul.us/basilica.htm
> >>
> >
> >
> > well, Truth be Told, my lack of Expertise in the sub-specialty of
Bumbershoot
> > Iconography is only marginally greater than in that of Laptop History,
> > so
i
> > suppose i'll have to accept your word for how suchlike artifacts should
be
> > properly nomenclatured.
> >
> > however, as to the colors, it seems that the b&w woodcut of the Chartres
> > badge
> >
> > http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/forgeais/forgeais4_ 115.jpg
> >
> > rather accurately the [lack of] polychromy on the original, which was in
> > pewter.
> >
> > 12th-13th c. Chartres cathedral not being (to my knowledge) a Papal
Basilica,
> > my best guess is that some Papa or other simply stole the idea of using
> > a
> > Liturgical Bumbershoot as part of the Armes of suchlike a building.
> >
> > what struck me about the original German example on the page you quoted
was
> > its shape, which echoed somewhat the unusual form of the artifacts which
> > appear on the Chartres badge.
> >
> > of course, the German one is in its Flacid/Non-Erect posture, presumably
for
> > interior viewing; while the one on the coats of armes which you
> > indicated
> > above are in the Full Upright, Erect & Ready-for-Action Mode.
> >
> > so, the question remains, why didn't the "artist" who created the
> > figures
on
> > the Chartres artifact depict that mode --if, indeed, his spade-like
Whatsits
> > are even Bumbershoots at all-- since his objects are clearly an
> > important
part
> > of the processional scene he's trying to represent?
> >
> >
> > i note, with regret, that neither "conopeum" nor "ombrellino" rated an
article
> > in Cabrol-Leclercq's massive _Dictionnaire d'archeologie et de liturgie
> > chretienne_; which is a great shame, since i'm sure that those guys
> > could
have
> > Done a Number on the pre-Carolingian history of suchlike Thingies.
> >
> >
> >> A search for 'conopeum' in Google images will brings up several
examples.
> >>
> >
> > as well it should.
> >
> > facinating stuff
> >
> > http://www.sms.si.edu/IRLSpec/Conope_seurat.htm
> >
> > http://www.marlin.ac.uk/species/Conopeumreticulum.htm
> >
> > ahhh... here's one being carried in the Non-Erect position
> >
> >
http://lh4.ggpht.com/chris.ochoa/SB2bp1B7cFI/AAAAAAAAEBw/pG46ElwXM30/s720/DSCF2920.jpg
> >
> > or, perhaps, these ones don't really open up like Normal Bumbershoots
> > and
the
> > ones on the Papal Basilican Armes are just overly-optimistic and
suffering
> > from Viagra posioning?
> >
> > butbut, no, Wait!
> >
> > the could the thingies on the badge be, not Bumbersooteums at all, but
rather
> > Tintinnabulae?
> >
> > yes, the Chartres artifacts
> >
> > http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/forgeais/forgeais4_ 115.jpg
> >
> > do, indeed, closely resemble
> >
> > http://home.online.no/~araronse/Mycenakey/tintinnabulum.htm
> >
> > or even (less likely)
> >
> > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Tintinnabulum.jpg
> >
> > or some middlevil variant of the one on the left here
> >
> >
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Procession_of_the_Precious_Blood_of_Jesus_Christ-Bruges;_het_conopeum.JPG
> >
> > this sort of Thingie,
> >
> > http://www.katholiek.org/pictures/tintinnabulum.jpg
> >
> > but without the sharp peak at the top.
> >
> > a liturgical bell, carried on a pole in processions.
> >
> > it it my Firm Belief that the Chartres Pilgrims' Badges, crude though
they
> > are, depicted scenes which would have been immediately recognizable --in
all
> > their details-- to anyone who had actually gone to the cathedral and
witnessed
> > them.
> >
> >
> > otOh, the images.google.com search also turned up this Looser
> >
> >
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/06/images/20040617-4_012t2497-515h.jpg
> >
> > which suggests, unless i'm seriously misunderestimating it, that this
> > Innernets Thingie is not quite perfected.
> >
> > yet.
> >
> > c
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:23 am
> >> Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 21. October
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
culture
> >>>
> >>> From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 3) Wendelin (d. later 6h or early 7th cent.?).
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> In about 1050 _Basonis villare_, now St. Wendel in the Saarland,
> >>>>
> >>> began to be
> >>> called by the name of its saint. Its originally fourteenth-century
> >>>
> > church
> >
> >>> dedicated to him houses his putative remains in a raised tomb
> >>> (Hochgrab) that
> >>> was dedicated in 1360. Some exterior views of the church:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Other interior views of the church, including (lower down on the
> >>>>
> >>> page) views
> >>> of the tomb, will be found here:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.sankt-wendelinus.de/index.php?id=196
> >>>>
> >>> listmembers cursed with exceptionally good memories may recall that
> >>> the topic
> >>> of Liturgical/Processional Umbrellas came up a couple of years
> >>> ago --in
> >>> connection with their appearance on at least one Pilgrims' Badge from
> >>> Chartres.
> >>>
> >>> http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/newbadges.html
> >>>
> >>> http://ariadne.org/cc/badges/forgeais/forgeais4_115.jpg
> >>>
> >>> here's a nice one, which seems to echo the (somewhat unusual?) form of
> >>> the
> >>> Chartres exemplars:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.sankt-wendelinus.de/typo3temp/pics/d7cbdb981a.jpg
> >>>
> >>> an expandable view is available on the original page, near the bottom:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.sankt-wendelinus.de/index.php?id=196
> >>>
> >>> keep in mind that the Chartres badge is quite small and, in quality,
> >>>
> > hardly
> >
> >>> "high" art --scale isn't really a consideration.
> >>>
> >>> anyway, they look more like bumbershoots than digging spades, if we
have
> >>> something to compare them to.
> >>>
> >>> c
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