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Re: Flying hydrogen issue in coot 0.5

From:

Mark Collins <[log in to unmask]>

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Mark Collins <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:30:55 -0400

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TEXT/PLAIN (186 lines) , pdb4coot.sed (1 lines)

Hi
Just refined a glycine and a leucine, and realized there was a problem 
with the script.  Here is version 0.2
Mark



On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Jonathan Winger wrote:

> Fantastic.  Thank you!
> 
> jon
> 
> On Oct 22, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Mark Collins wrote:
> 
> > sorry that should have been
> > sed -f pdb4coot.sed file.pdb > newcoot.pdb
> > mark
> >
> > On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:53 PM, Jonathan Winger wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark,
> >> I compared the names of the H atoms for each of the residue types  
> >> in my pdb file with their cif files in the coot monomer library  
> >> (for example, see below).  Then, to make the H names in the pdb  
> >> file match those in the cif file, I used a text editor to search my  
> >> pdb file for the string "HB2 SER" and replaced all with "HB1 SER".   
> >> Next, I replaced all "HB3 SER" with "HB2 SER".  (It's important to  
> >> start by changing the H2s to H1s, then the H3s to H2s.  Otherwise,  
> >> everything ends up as a H1).  I did the same sort of thing for  
> >> residues with other H types, like Arg (with HG2 and 3, HD2 and 3,  
> >> etc.)  After doing that for all residue types, Coot could real- 
> >> space refine the H atoms without any problem.  It is a major PITA,  
> >> though, especially if you have alternate conformations.  Plus, I  
> >> don't know what it will do as far as compatibility with other  
> >> software down the line.  So far the edited pdb files seem to work  
> >> ok in phenix, but I'm still checking...
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> From my pdb after adding H with Molprobity/reduce:
> >> ATOM    179  N   SER A 491     -58.459  56.155  -4.915   
> >> 1.00101.27      A    N
> >> ATOM    180  CA  SER A 491     -59.811  56.265  -5.435   
> >> 1.00106.61      A    C
> >> ATOM    181  C   SER A 491     -60.148  57.722  -5.726   
> >> 1.00108.97      A    C
> >> ATOM    182  CB  SER A 491     -60.812  55.672  -4.442   
> >> 1.00110.28      A    C
> >> ATOM    183  OG  SER A 491     -62.063  55.428  -5.058   
> >> 1.00114.41      A    O
> >> ATOM    184  O   SER A 491     -60.682  58.044  -6.786   
> >> 1.00113.36      A    O
> >> ATOM      0  H   SER A 491     -58.405  55.839  -3.968   
> >> 1.00101.27      A    H   new
> >> ATOM      0  HA  SER A 491     -59.874  55.697  -6.375   
> >> 1.00106.61      A    H   new
> >> ATOM      0  HB2 SER A 491     -60.413  54.733  -4.032   
> >> 1.00110.28      A    H   new
> >> ATOM      0  HB3 SER A 491     -60.945  56.362  -3.596   
> >> 1.00110.28      A    H   new
> >> ATOM      0  HG  SER A 491     -62.695  55.040  -4.387   
> >> 1.00114.41      A    H   new
> >>
> >> From Coot monomer lib ( /sw/share/coot/lib/data/monomers/s/SER.cif):
> >> data_comp_SER
> >> #
> >> loop_
> >> _chem_comp_atom.comp_id
> >> _chem_comp_atom.atom_id
> >> _chem_comp_atom.type_symbol
> >> _chem_comp_atom.type_energy
> >> _chem_comp_atom.partial_charge
> >>  SER           N      N    NH1      -0.204
> >>  SER           H      H    HNH1      0.204
> >>  SER           CA     C    CH1       0.058
> >>  SER           HA     H    HCH1      0.046
> >>  SER           CB     C    CH2      -0.040
> >>  SER           HB1    H    HCH2      0.053
> >>  SER           HB2    H    HCH2      0.053
> >>  SER           OG     O    OH1      -0.448
> >>  SER           HG     H    HOH1      0.302
> >>  SER           C      C    C         0.318
> >>  SER           O      O    O        -0.422
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 21, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Mark Collins wrote:
> >>
> >>> hi Jon
> >>> What do you mean search and replace?  Were the names of some  
> >>> hydrogens incorrect.  Feel free to include a few examples.
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Winger wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Mark and Paul,
> >>>>
> >>>> I had to manually go through my pdb file and search and replace  
> >>>> all the offending hydrogens.  Kind of painful.  I hope there's  
> >>>> some way to either standardize or automate something here, or  
> >>>> it's going to be rough interconverting everything all the time...
> >>>>
> >>>> Best of luck,
> >>>> Jon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 21, 2008, at 6:59 AM, Paul Emsley wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Mark,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I thought we did - but maybe not :-/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you could send me an offending residue (just a PDB snippet,  
> >>>>> no map required) I'll try to see what the issue is.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paul.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> p.s.  I'll be in Manhattan tomorrow (I am teaching at Cold  
> >>>>> Spring Harbor today) maybe going to Broadway.  You're not a  
> >>>>> million miles away, right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark Collins wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Jonathan Did you find/get a fix for this?  I just switched  
> >>>>>> to pdb v3 file, from the happy and well behaved v2 file.  It  
> >>>>>> seems that all H_3 position Hydrogens are the problem (ie HB3,  
> >>>>>> HG3 etc.) and as descirbed fly off when using RSR.
> >>>>>> Thanks Mark
> >>>>>> (os 10.4 G4, coot 0.5)
> >>>>>> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Jonathan Winger wrote:
> >>>>>>> I'm building a structure in Coot 0.5.  Upon real-space refine  
> >>>>>>> or  regularize, some of the hydrogens on some residues fly  
> >>>>>>> off.  It  doesn't seem to be the old pdb v3 atom-name issue,  
> >>>>>>> since other  residues in the structure with exactly the same  
> >>>>>>> atom names real-space  refine without any trouble.  Anyone  
> >>>>>>> have a fix for this?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
> >>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds  
> >>> new
> >>> discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
> >>> Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Mark Collins
> >>> Columbia University
> >>> Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biophysics
> >>> Hendrickson Lab, Black Building 259/201 Office/Lab
> >>> 212 305 1951 (work)
> >>> [log in to unmask]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
> > discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
> > Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Mark Collins
> > Columbia University
> > Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biophysics
> > Hendrickson Lab, Black Building 259/201 Office/Lab
> > 212 305 1951 (work)
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 


s/HA3\(.\)GLY/HA1\1GLY/g s/HB3\(.\)ARG/HB1\1ARG/g s/HB3\(.\)ASN/HB1\1ASN/g s/HB3\(.\)ASP/HB1\1ASP/g s/HB3\(.\)CYS/HB1\1CYS/g s/HB3\(.\)GLN/HB1\1GLN/g s/HB3\(.\)GLU/HB1\1GLU/g s/HB3\(.\)HIS/HB1\1HIS/g s/HB3\(.\)LEU/HB1\1LEU/g s/HB3\(.\)LYS/HB1\1LYS/g s/HB3\(.\)MET/HB1\1MET/g s/HB3\(.\)MSE/HB1\1MSE/g s/HB3\(.\)PHE/HB1\1PHE/g s/HB3\(.\)PRO/HB1\1PRO/g s/HB3\(.\)SER/HB1\1SER/g s/HB3\(.\)TRP/HB1\1TRP/g s/HB3\(.\)TYR/HB1\1TYR/g s/HG3\(.\)ARG/HG1\1ARG/g s/HG3\(.\)GLN/HG1\1GLN/g s/HG3\(.\)GLU/HG1\1GLU/g s/HG3\(.\)LYS/HG1\1LYS/g s/HG3\(.\)MET/HG1\1MET/g s/HG3\(.\)MSE/HG1\1MSE/g s/HG3\(.\)PRO/HG1\1PRO/g s/HD3\(.\)ARG/HD1\1ARG/g s/HD3\(.\)LYS/HD1\1LYS/g s/HD3\(.\)PRO/HD1\1PRO/g s/HE3\(.\)LYS/HE1\1LYS/g s/HG13\(.\)ILE/HG11\1ILE/g ######sed -f pdb4coot.sed old.pdb > new.pdb

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