I'm glad it gave you a giggle, joodles, that's the whole point of my
project, which +is+ to please, but not in a sucking-up to authority
kind of way.
Best
Davo
2008/9/12 Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]>:
> <gg> "surface of sandwiches"......."more negligible than the dressings of
> economists"........hee hee hee....
> joodles
>
> 2008/9/12 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> I wrote this back in 1994. I notice they haven't yet found 'the
>> Higgs'. The format won't come out quite right in this media, but I
>> hope some of the jokes do.
>>
>> A DIGRESSION ON AN ABSENCE OF FACT
>> A NOT QUITE ECLOGUE
>> (A quiet glade in the Outer Realms. Hilarius Hilaricon floats
>> peacefully over the stream of nothingness, meditating on abstruse
>> tangles of being. Something sparkles on the nothing-stream.)
>> H.H. - Hello there, who are you?
>> H.B. - One who is tormented with existence, harried like a hare by the dogs
>> of
>> knowledge. My name is Boson, Higgs Boson.
>> H.H. - My friend, what is your problem?
>> H.B. - Until but a few years ago - how long it all seems now — I was happy,
>> at
>> peace and non-existent - I had no problems then - but then the Higgs
>> appeared and forced me into name and the scar I bear to this very day.
>> H.H. - Are you telling me it was your father?
>> H.B. - Father, creator, inventor, discoverer - it's all alike to me.
>> It prised me from
>> the contentedness of nothingness, weighed me with gravity, squeezed mass
>> from my cries, discontented me into content.
>> H.H. - But that's being born. We all must endure it.
>> H.B. - Not if you do not exist. And I don't. Yet I am forced to be. I
>> am but a simple
>> particle, my friend, my needs are few, my resources little, yet the Higgs
>> and
>> its kind would entangle me with everything, from the birth of the Universe
>> to the surface of sandwiches. I am not made for this. I haven't the
>> strength
>> to bear it.
>> H.H.- So the Higgs turned you from a simple Boson to a particle in great
>> demand?
>> H.B.- Even the Boson came with the Higgs.
>> H.H.- But why? Why are you persecuted so?
>> H.B.- For explanations.
>> H.H.- Ah, I see.
>> H.B.- They have plans for me, you know. I feel so - so - hunted. I can
>> sense them
>> at every turn, they're looking everywhere for me, they're out to get me.
>> H.H. -Please, please, take a hold of yourself.
>> H.B. - I can't, I don't exist.
>> H.H. -You're beginning to sound paranoid.
>>
>> A SIMPLE FRIENDSHIP
>> H.B. - I know they're after me, I've seen them. I am not, but am becoming.
>> H.H. - So why do you not go to the Higgs and its kind, speak to them,
>> try to come to an agreement, to make a pact on your emptiness.
>> H.B. - Because I do not exist.
>> H.H. - But the Higgs and its allies plot to make you material?
>> H.B. - Yes, yes, I never was and they will make me be. I was thinner than
>> the
>> rarest air, less than the shadow of a molecule, slighter than the skimpiest
>> verse, more negligible than the dressings of economists. I can't, I can't
>> take the weight of it all. The Higgs and its creatures want to hurl things
>> at
>> me underground, where others cannot see their crimes, to prove their
>> equations, to make me count - I, who have no knowledge of mathematics –
>> shooting their numbers ever faster towards infinity and me, until I am
>> forced out of nothing by the bombardment.
>> H.H. - That sounds very painful but ....
>> H.B. - Have you ever been hit with a hadron?
>> H.H. - No, but I think the only thing you can do is wait until you
>> exist and then
>> talk to them. Surely they want to understand?
>> H.B.- Talk? I shall do more than talk. I shall change into a wave. I shall
>> drown
>> them with in-existence, I shall submerge them in apparitions.
>> (Hilarius Hilaricon brightens at the last word and floats higher in
>> the air. Interest animates his voice.)
>> H.H.- Apparitions?
>> H.B.- Yes, my friend.
>> H.H.- Call me Hilarius. You mentioned apparitions?
>> H.B.- Yes, Hilarius, my friend, I too am a ghost. You are the ghost of
>> the living,
>> . I am the ghost of an idea. You are the haunted, I, the hunted.
>> H.H.- We shall talk further on these matters.
>> (As the darkness falls on the page, they merge into the thickening
>> nothing, entering its non-existent folds, like shepherds plodding
>> homeward, into the brotherhood of a void bucolic.)
>>
>>
>> 2008/9/12 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>:
>> > INTRUDED
>> >
>> > he intruded upon her
>> > telerehabilitation haptic interfaces,
>> > with his
>> > metaphysical presuppositions.
>> > and finally embedded himself
>> > in her
>> > somatosensory space
>> > via haptic matching tasks
>> >
>> > Patrick noninformative visual information poet
>> > Cheers all
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>> > Behalf Of Roger Day
>> > Sent: 12 September 2008 09:00
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: Re: space questions (spaced out???)
>> >
>> > Well, it's all relative as Einstein announced with a big bang ...
>> >
>> > Very interested in the links - like Patrick, I'm extremely ignorant in
>> > these regions. I feel the pull of unknown terms. I shall spend this
>> > weekend perusing the links.
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > Roger
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Christopher C Jones
>> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> Distortions of perspective it may be? It may well be the position from
>> >> which I pose such a query but could it be said that the question of
>> >> space is the big question that spans the 20th century?
>> >>
>> >> I was just interrupted by a telemarketing cold call which I then
>> >> immediately hang up on so have forgotten the question.
>> >>
>> >> >From Husserl and phenomenology on to Heidegger and beyond to Deleuze's
>> >> metaphysics it appears that philosophy seems to make a claim for space
>> >> as the big question of the 20th C. The claim that these philosophers are
>> >> concerned with time it seems to me would be to misplace the question?
>> >> William James questioning transcendental philosophy, without reading
>> >> again, also seems a question of space. Einstein, no doubt, makes a new
>> >> claim for space in theoretical physics and mathematics.
>> >>
>> >> Rightly or wrongly this seems, for me, to return again and again to
>> >> questions of form. Poetic forms in free verse, prose novels and art
>> >> photography... all with a big question of space hanging over them?
>> >>
>> >> Some years back on this forum there was a discussion of open form and
>> >> New Poetry and not wishing to start another war it does seem that the
>> >> big differences were again questions of space. This could be a question
>> >> of open and closed spaces with ethical questions of one over the other?
>> >> (It could be said that closed forms allow an immanent critique
>> >> foreclosed to open form?)
>> >>
>> >> At the risk of a short circuit, it could be said that against a
>> >> pragmatics of time which occupies the greater part of my formal
>> >> education in poetry writing, poetics and aesthetics and many others, it
>> >> could be said that a pragmatics of space is yet to find any solutions.
>> >> This would include a pragmatics of affects with such illuminating names
>> >> as William James and Silvan Tomkins? Are we still in the arena of space
>> >> and affects and still without time?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Just some URLs of articles I have been reading and found using google
>> >> search: haptic space perception
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Remembrance of places past: a history
>> >> of theories of space
>> >>
>> >> http://www.cognitivemap.net/HCMpdf/Ch1.pdf
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Noninformative vision improves haptic spatial perception
>> >>
>> >> http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13964253
>> >>
>> >> article on haptic computer interfaces
>> >>
>> >> http://csdl2.computer.org/comp/mags/mu/2006/03/u3022.pdf
>> >>
>> >> (There are other articles on jstor and ingenta but I no longer have
>> >> research library access to these thanks to illness.)
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
>> > "I began to warm and chill
>> > to objects and their fields"
>> > Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Bircumshaw
>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>>
>
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David Bircumshaw
Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
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