How about going back to Kant? He's a man who anticipated everybody up thru
Einstein. Hence, if there's no space and no time......wouldn't you think we
could muddle through our art(s) with relatively more ooomph and less angst?!
But here we are, nivvertheless, muddling. The Big Deal with poetry is THE
LINE. Where will it end, how long will it be, how many syllables should it
have, should it extend for a mile or an inch, should each line be stepped as
in a Chinese terraced field, should it be a splashed severe waterfall,
should we avoid lines at all costs by drawing piccies with our font or
substituting mostly images for letters?
THE LINE. Bottom line.
For 2D art, I don't know. Is there a counterpart? Prolly. Might be
Perspective. Haven't thought about it enough.
Fun, this!
Judy
2008/9/12 Christopher C Jones <[log in to unmask]>
> Distortions of perspective it may be? It may well be the position from
> which I pose such a query but could it be said that the question of
> space is the big question that spans the 20th century?
>
> I was just interrupted by a telemarketing cold call which I then
> immediately hang up on so have forgotten the question.
>
> >From Husserl and phenomenology on to Heidegger and beyond to Deleuze's
> metaphysics it appears that philosophy seems to make a claim for space
> as the big question of the 20th C. The claim that these philosophers are
> concerned with time it seems to me would be to misplace the question?
> William James questioning transcendental philosophy, without reading
> again, also seems a question of space. Einstein, no doubt, makes a new
> claim for space in theoretical physics and mathematics.
>
> Rightly or wrongly this seems, for me, to return again and again to
> questions of form. Poetic forms in free verse, prose novels and art
> photography... all with a big question of space hanging over them?
>
> Some years back on this forum there was a discussion of open form and
> New Poetry and not wishing to start another war it does seem that the
> big differences were again questions of space. This could be a question
> of open and closed spaces with ethical questions of one over the other?
> (It could be said that closed forms allow an immanent critique
> foreclosed to open form?)
>
> At the risk of a short circuit, it could be said that against a
> pragmatics of time which occupies the greater part of my formal
> education in poetry writing, poetics and aesthetics and many others, it
> could be said that a pragmatics of space is yet to find any solutions.
> This would include a pragmatics of affects with such illuminating names
> as William James and Silvan Tomkins? Are we still in the arena of space
> and affects and still without time?
>
>
> Just some URLs of articles I have been reading and found using google
> search: haptic space perception
>
>
> Remembrance of places past: a history
> of theories of space
>
> http://www.cognitivemap.net/HCMpdf/Ch1.pdf
>
>
> Noninformative vision improves haptic spatial perception
>
> http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13964253
>
> article on haptic computer interfaces
>
> http://csdl2.computer.org/comp/mags/mu/2006/03/u3022.pdf
>
> (There are other articles on jstor and ingenta but I no longer have
> research library access to these thanks to illness.)
>
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