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From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shannon McSheffrey [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [M-R] wie es eigentlich gewesen
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
To defend "professional historians in Canada," the curiosity of my husband
was the grammatical point about the "ist." Even in the cold white north we
have heard of Ranke, although I confess little knowledge of nephrology,
medieval or otherwise.
Dr. Shannon McSheffrey
Professor and Chair, Department of History
Concordia University
1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. W.
Montreal, Quebec CANADA H3G 1M8
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From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christopher
Crockett
Sent: August-14-08 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [M-R] wie es eigentlich gewesen
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From: Shannon McSheffrey <[log in to unmask]>
> My husband, Eric Reiter, curious about this, did a bit of clicking around
and found:
> www.univie.ac.at/alte-geschichte/ranke1.doc -From the foreword to
*Geschichten der romanischen und germanischen Völker von 1494 bis 1535*
(1824):
> ..Man hat der Historie das Amt, die Vergangenheit zu richten, die Mitwelt
zum Nutzen zukünftiger Jahre zu belehren, beigemessen: so hoher Ämter
unterwindet sich gegenwärtiger Versuch nicht: er will bloß sagen, wie es
eigentlich gewesen.
> Shannon
> Dr. Shannon McSheffrey
> Professor and Chair, Department of History
> Concordia University
> 1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd. W.
> Montreal, Quebec CANADA H3G 1M8
goodness, one of the most significant quotes in all of the Historiography of
History, unknown to professional historians in Canada.
yet, known to Chicago Nephrologists.
From: "Gannett, Dulcie" <[log in to unmask]>
> And, as my Old English teacher said, it's ridiculous to think we can do
history "wie es eigentlich gewesen"--and he much preferred someone like Bede
who was up front about his presuppositions....
> Dulcie Gannett
> Division of Nephrology
> 303 E. Chicago Ave.
> Tarry 4-701
> Chicago, IL 60611
well, it's not a Gender and Sexuality issue, i suppose.
c
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