Yes, I agree it could make a lot of practical sense to do this, but....

....meanwhile in the real world repository managers have to make do with the
software and services that are available to them right now.

Experience shows that researchers want full not fragmentary publication
lists. If my IR cannot deliver this functionality then other options will
look more tempting (yes faculty web pages I'm looking at you!)

To keep the researchers happy I say "Deposit All, Deposit Early and Deposit
Often!" and worry about the consequences later. 

Theo


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-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Paul Needham
Sent: 26 August 2008 15:42
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Subject: Re: new faculty and IR publications

Wouldn't it make more sense for an Institutional Repository to house just
the research outputs from its own Institution? A 'natural' organisational
unit, as Professor Harnad has observed on many occasions. Otherwise we are
talking about multiple institutions effectively running multiple Author
Repositories/CVs. What happens when an author at an institution (A) moves on
to his/her next institution (B), and the next (C), and the next (D)? Are A,
B and C going update their repositories with new entries for the author now
at D? No - A, B and C will just get increasingly out of date. Are A, B and C
going to delete their IR entries now the author is at D? No - the
institutions are likely to retain those entries as evidence of
'institutional' research outputs.

 

Surely an Author Repository/CV system would be better catered for by using
over-arching services such as the Intute Repository Search Service
(http://www.intute.ac.uk/irs/ <http://www.intute.ac.uk/irs/> ) in
conjunction with a 'national name and factual authority service'. (The JISC
NAMES project
(http://www.jisc.ac.uk/whatwedo/programmes/programme_rep_pres/shared_service
s/project_names.aspx
<http://www.jisc.ac.uk/whatwedo/programmes/programme_rep_pres/shared_service
s/project_names.aspx> )  is working on a pilot service.)

 

Just a thought!

 

Regards

Paul

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On Behalf Of Piegza, Amanda M.
Sent: 26 August 2008 14:15
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Subject: Re: new faculty and IR publications

 

Thank you all for your replies regarding this topic. I didn't state this in
my initial post but, I DO want to put up the full text for faculty, even
when their research was done elsewhere, I was just unsure if publishers
would consider that self-archiving. However, your responses have given me a
lot to think about. One of the reasons I really do want new faculty to put
up all of their works is because of what one of you stated, that if we
don't, then they'll not find the repository as beneficial and just want
their faculty pages up instead. Plus that initial rapport we establish with
new faculty will be hard to change if they think we're 'hard to work with'
or otherwise non-helpful. Thanks again for all the posts, your thoughts are
appreciated!

-Amanda

 

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On Behalf Of Delasalle, Jenny
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:50 AM
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Subject: Re: new faculty and IR publications

 

Indeed: and the danger of saying to authors that we only want works they
have written whilst in employment at our own institution is that they won't
bother to deposit with us but will continue to maintain their own lists on
webpages and sites external to the University, because at least there they
can be comprehensive about their own careers... and where they can
presumably continue to forget about the copyright agreements they are
signing as their pages will be part of the anarchic web rather than a
structured resource. (Which will make little difference to Google's ability
to find their pages, particularly for those with prestigious reputations,
whose work we particularly want in the repository.)

 

I think the crux is that it depends on what resources you have to mediate
deposits and add the metadata yourselves (asking authors to do it on deposit
is not going to encourage them to deposit) and what purpose you want your
repository to serve. If it is meant as a place to showcase full text items
by your authors, does it really matter where they were working at the time
they wrote them? But if you want a repository as something to record what
has been written by your employees during their term of employment (a
management tool), well that's a different purpose that might require
different processes and resourcing.

 

Jen