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Subject:

problems with WAC list messages

From:

Umberto Albarella <[log in to unmask]>

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Umberto Albarella <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:18:23 +0100

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Dear Friends,

I was wondering if you could help me is sorting out an annoying problem, which
is occurring with my messages to the WAC list. I would be most grateful if
those of you who are on the WAC discussion list could let me know if you have
received the following two messages (at the bottom of this email). Please note
that the first one was also sent to arch-justice so you will have received it
on this list, but I am interested in knowing whether you also got it through
the WAC list.

The problem is that these messages result to be sent and are in fact present in
the WAC list archive, but many people have told me that they have not received
them, and in fact I also did not receive the first of the two. I asked the WAC
moderators if they could send it again (as they had done for a previous message
that had a similar problem) but they won't do it because as far as they are
concerned the message has been sent.

Thanks for your help. Please write to me personally and not to the list, unless
you have general comments to make.

Cheers,
Umberto. 





Date:  Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:31:55 +0100 
From:  Umberto Albarella <[log in to unmask]> 
To:  [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] 
Cc:  [log in to unmask] 
Subject:  Re: [Wac] WAC and Rio Tinto 

Dear Tom,

I think that I covered this issue in my previous message but let me reiterate
it. The recognition of grey areas and that rarely anything is all bad or all
good is important, and I agree with you on that point.  However, when grey
areas prevent us from categorising the reality at all and from recognising that
with all their shades good and bad things in the world exist, that is simply
analytical *failure*. The fact that there are people in the world who are rich
so and so and poor so and so does not mean that we cannot state that the rich
and powerful dominate and those who are poor and oppressed suffer. In addition
I am not afraid to claim that many people invariably side with the oppressors
and others with the oppressed. This is not a simplistic dicothomy but an
analysis based on experience, evidence and a certain sensitivity towards these
issues.

Your warning is welcome but if you use it as the central point of your argument
then no political analysis is possible and we become slaves of an 'everthing
goes' attitude.

Cheers,
Umberto 


 
 

Date:  Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:04:57 +0100 
From:  Umberto Albarella <[log in to unmask]> 
To:  [log in to unmask], Jon Price <[log in to unmask]> 
Cc:  Yannis Hamilakis <[log in to unmask]>, wac <[log in to unmask]> 
Reply-to:  [log in to unmask] 
Subject:  RE: [Wac] RE: "archaeology and war/occupation/armed conflict/military"


Dear Jon,

It is perfectly OK for you to want to clarify that the Iran resolution as
posted
by Yannis does not represent WAC policy, as it was not accepted by the
executive. It is, however, less fair to refer to a "mistake" made by Yannis as
he does not claim that it is WAC policy but merely that it was adopted by the
plenary, which is of course absolutely correct. There is no mistake whatsover.


I also wish that you stopped 'excusing' Yannis for making mistakes since he was
not present at the plenary. This is a touch unkind as it implies that he
basically doesn't know what he is talking about. It is also unkind to the way
we have dealt with this resolution as it implies that there is no communication
between myself - who presented the resolution in Yannis' absence -and him.
Yannis is fully aware of what happened at the plenary as I (and others) told
him. 

As in a previous occasion I must emphasise that although your clarification on
the issue of the posting is welcome, your assumption that the messages include
incorrect information is not, as both time these reflected exactly the reality
of what happened at the plenary. Yannis' absence from the final discussion is
completely irrelevant to what we are discussing now. I hope we can move the
discussion on as friendly and collaboratively as we have done so far - despite
divergent opinions.

Cheers,
Umberto

 
 
-- 
Umberto Albarella
Department of Archaeology
University of Sheffield
Northgate House
West Street
Sheffield S1 4ET
United Kingdom
Telephone: (+) 44 (0) 114 22 22 943 
Fax: (+) 44 (0) 114 27 22 563 
http://www.shef.ac.uk/archaeology/staff/albarella.html
For Archaeologists for Global Justice (AGJ) see:
http://www.shef.ac.uk/archaeology/global-justice.html

"There is no way to peace. Peace IS the way".

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