Hey, Roger, as a once-upon-a-time surrealistic playwright in 70s I can
understand you preferring modern plays, but I was in London two years back,
walking to the Tate Modern when I spyed the Globe: amazing. So I went in -
five pounds, as someone has pointed out and a full-on traditional version of
Coriolanus, one of my favourite S plays. So I was a pleased tourist. I
recognised the lead as a tv guy (out of Spooks and such BBC fare). Not much
else of London is so English! (Maybe the USAmericans will buy the Globe and
move it to the centre of 'civilisation'.)
So, as a tourist, I really enjoyed The Globe.
Andrew
2008/6/7 Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>:
> You got me there. It's my prejudice. New plays I can dig but for me
> any money wasted on Shakespeare is money not being spent on modern
> theatre. But hey, I'm in a minority here.
>
> http://www.roundhouse.org.uk/ - not the histories *again*!!!!!! At
> least the Daily Mail likes it I suppose.
>
> Roger
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Heather Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > Hmmm....I'm curious if people who are writing about the globe here have
> been
> > there? Or go there regularly. Not only are they doing Shakespeare in
> modern
> > ways to packed audiences but they are putting on new plays that are
> written
> > for that space. Some of the work is fresh and exciting. People were
> even
> > fainting during Titus Andronicus which was a bloody affair. Also it's £5
> for
> > groundling seats - best priced theatre in town!
> >
> > Also Shakespeare is all over the west end and in theatres around London -
> > Cheek by Jowl doing Troillus and Cressida at Barbican and doing a world
> > tour, RSC doing the Henrys and both Richards at the Roundhouse - I also
> say
> > a marvellously modern and sold out Macbeth starring Patrick Stewart last
> > November that had an extended run...
> >
> > And I'm not a tourist. I'm a playwright and producer.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Day [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 06 June 2008 17:32
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Some bits
> >
> > I think, also, the globe is a little more insidious than that. I think
> > it's part of the heritage industry; it's designed for tourism. For
> > God, Harry etc. Nostalgia. And toy-trains - the globe reminds me of
> > those railway enthusiasts who have to get right *every* detail of York
> > circa 1929.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM, David Bircumshaw
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> Almost anything's potentially a tourist trap these days. That's what
> >> living in a culture focused on marketing does to things.
> >> My masterplan for the coming years is to persuade the Arts Council
> >> that I'm a rare cultural antiquity. I expect stiff competition from
> >> Patrick.
> >>
> >> 2008/6/6 Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>:
> >>> the Globe is a tourist trap, little more, little less.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:01 PM, David Bircumshaw
> >>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>> The Globe isn't government subsidized you know.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2008/6/5 Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>:
> >>>>> Indeed. But would that make Hamlet as good as the Mousetrap? At least
> >>>>> the Mousetrap didn't have to be subsidized to be shown.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Roger
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:58 PM, David Bircumshaw
> >>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>>> The Mousetrap ran for years.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2008/6/5 Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>:
> >>>>>>> Very little Shakespeare is played out on the professional west-end
> >>>>>>> stage these days. Most of it is in the Shakespearean churches.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Mark Weiss <
> [log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Roger: This is silly. Shakespeare is performed on the profesional
> > stage in
> >>>>>>>> the US all the time. Two years ago I saw a wonderful production of
> > As You
> >>>>>>>> Like It in Tucson. There are sold out summer Shakespeare festivals
> > in
> >>>>>>>> Oregon, New York, and Connecticut that I'm aware of. When I was a
> > teenager a
> >>>>>>>> complete cycle of the history plays was done at a major downtown
> > theater in
> >>>>>>>> NY. Lear was done on Broadway last year.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The ways of the censor tend to be unpredictable, perhaps because
> >>>>>>>> unpredictability is such a potent weapon.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At 05:40 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> one swallow a summer does not make.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Mark Weiss
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> > Right now the hottest ticket on Broadway is MacBeth, with
> Patrick
> >>>>>>>>> > Stewart in
> >>>>>>>>> > the title role. The run is sold out--even the scalpers are at a
> > loss.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > Mark
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > At 12:47 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> Those were the days - the Lord Chamberlain (member of the
> Royal
> >>>>>>>>> >> Household) and his malign influence on the British Theatre. In
> > another
> >>>>>>>>> >> email list, a long time ago, I mooted the theory that
> > shakespeare's
> >>>>>>>>> >> continuing popularity down the ages was due in part to the
> > Bard's
> >>>>>>>>> >> acceptability before the LC. My logic, fwiw, ran thus: you
> want
> > to put
> >>>>>>>>> >> on a play and in those days, the least likeliest plays to get
> > banned
> >>>>>>>>> >> were Shakespeares. So, you play safe, put on the Bard. Until
> the
> > 60s,
> >>>>>>>>> >> when the LC threw away his blue pencil. Nowadays, S hardly
> > appears on
> >>>>>>>>> >> the commercial stage.
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> American bannings are two a penny: their school libraries have
> >>>>>>>>> >> committees which are battle-grounds for the
> inclusion/exclusion
> > of
> >>>>>>>>> >> books. Harry Potter is a notorious example of this - the poor,
> > deluded
> >>>>>>>>> >> fundies trying to stave off the influence of the heathen
> (WTF?).
> > There
> >>>>>>>>> >> are lists on line of books that have been banned in the US.
> Are
> > there
> >>>>>>>>> >> any for the UK?
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> Roger
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM, David Bircumshaw
> >>>>>>>>> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> >> > Lear was banned from performance between 1788-1820 when
> > George III
> >>>>>>>>> >> > was considered insane, and the link between stage and
> royalty
> > would
> >>>>>>>>> >> > be
> >>>>>>>>> >> > too close for official comfort. Contemporaneously with this
> > Tom Paine
> >>>>>>>>> >> > was also banned in England and, famously, Coleridge and
> > Wordsworth
> >>>>>>>>> >> > were watched for talking about Spinoza (Spy-noza)
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> > While 'Silas Marner' was banned in Anaheim CA in 1978 (?!)
> and
> > '1984'
> >>>>>>>>> >> > in Florida in 1981 because it was considered 'pro-communist'
> > (?)
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> > --
> >>>>>>>>> >> > David Bircumshaw
> >>>>>>>>> >> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >>>>>>>>> >> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
> >>>>>>>>> >> > The Animal Subsides
> > http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >>>>>>>>> >> > Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> --
> >>>>>>>>> >> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> >>>>>>>>> >> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue
> >>>>>>>>> >> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too"
> >>>>>>>>> >> The Go-Betweens
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> >>>>>>>>> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue
> >>>>>>>>> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too"
> >>>>>>>>> The Go-Betweens
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> >>>>>>> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue
> >>>>>>> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too"
> >>>>>>> The Go-Betweens
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> David Bircumshaw
> >>>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
> >>>>>> The Animal Subsides
> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >>>>>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> >>>>> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue
> >>>>> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too"
> >>>>> The Go-Betweens
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> David Bircumshaw
> >>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
> >>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >>>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> >>> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue
> >>> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too"
> >>> The Go-Betweens
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Bircumshaw
> >> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/
> >> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> > "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue
> > She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too"
> > The Go-Betweens
> >
>
>
>
> --
> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> "She went out with her paint box, paints the chapel blue
> She went out with her matches, torched the car-wash too"
> The Go-Betweens
>
--
Andrew
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