Hi Mairead!
I am interested in the "male conference" bit. Male in participants or
in preoccupations?
Cris, is this still true of the meeting? What makes a male discussion
these days?
All best
Bridget
Off to Abbotsford, Walter Scott's house - full of male interests past
- halberds, penons, cuirasses etc. And Byron's remark "I have read
[Scott] fifty times...how I long to get drunk with him"
On 6/7/08, mairead byrne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I was tempted to go, cris, but didn't, partly because I didn't have time to
> write a proposal/paper. I went in 2004. It was a terrifically male
> conference! What do you mean:
> "although i personally lost it with expending large amounts of energy on
> trying to talk about the poetry that excited me, since it met with so much
> hostility"? First: "the poetry that excited"? Then: the hostility, or the
> why of it, if that's not a waste of time.
> Mairead
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:32 PM, cris cheek <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > all decent points (Tim, Mairead, Ian and Peter) thnx for raising the lid
> Rupert;-)
> >
> >
> > yes the list was once more lively . . . although i personally lost it with
> expending large amounts of energy on trying to talk about the poetry that
> excited me, since it met with so much hostility
> >
> >
> > for those with any lingering interest then i'll be up in Orono, Maine for
> the NPF conference on the 1970s (i can hear u groaning already) next weekend
> (June 11-15)
> >
> >
> > the keynote poet is Rae Armantrout
> >
> >
> > others reading . . . in the official program are: Bruce Andrews, Rae
> Armantrout, Nicole Brossard, Clark Coolidge, Jayne Cortez, Ann Lauterbach,
> Bernadette Mayer, Tom Raworth and Fred Wah.
> >
> >
> > also in session: Steve Benson, Kit Robinson, and Barrett Watten . . . Tina
> Darragh, Lynne Dreyer, P. Inman, Joan Retallack, Phyllis Rosenzweig, Diane
> Ward
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There will be myriad l8 nite sessions running very late into the nite with
> all manner of "readers" and "readings"
> >
> >
> >
> > Confirmed conference participants (to date): Barry Alpert, Bruce Andrews,
> Stan Apps, Rae Armantrout, Peter Baker, Patrick Barron, Dawn Baude, Dodie
> Bellamy, Chad Bennett, Steve Benson, Jasper Bernes, Joel Bettridge, Tony
> Brinkley, Nicole Brossard, Fahamisha Brown, Lee Ann Brown, Franklin Bruno,
> Marie Buck, Stephen Burt, James Byrne, Charmaine Cadeau, cris cheek, Joshua
> Clover, Michael Clune, Alicia Cohen, Barbara Cole, Clark Coolidge, Jayne
> Cortez, Renee Curry, Tina Darragh, Kathe Davis, Thom Donovan, Lynne Dreyer,
> Patrick Durgin, Stephen Ellis, Andrew Epstein, Annie Finch, Thomas Fisher,
> Robert Fitterman, Brad Flis, Ed Foster, Wendy Galgan, Susan Gilmore, Chris
> Glomski, Michael Golston, Timothy Gray, Jeremy Green, Piotr Gwiazda, Ross
> Hair, Rob Halpern, Jeffrey Hamilton, Kaplan Harris, Henry Hart, Gregory
> Hazleton, Jeanne Heuving, Laura Hinton, Eric Hoffman, Susannah Hollister,
> Bruce Holsapple, Bill Howe, Florence Howe, Lisa Howe, P Inman, Grant
> Jenkins, Judith Johnson, Elisabeth Joyce, Kevin Killian, Youngmin Kim, Burt
> Kimmelman, Linda Kinnahan, Rodney Koeneke, Liz Kotz, Timothy Kreiner, Aaron
> Kunin, Gerry LaFemina, Kimberly Lamm, Brooks Lampe, Doug Lang, James Langer,
> David Lau, Ann Lauterbach, Ross Leckie, Ben Leubner, V. Nicholas LoLordo,
> Kimberly Lyons, Marit MacArthur, Douglas Manson, Bernadette Mayer, James
> Maynard, Deborah Meadows, Mark Melnicove, Mark Mendoza, Philip Metres, Peter
> Middleton, Brett Millier, Joe Moffet, K. Silem Mohammad, Stephen Motika,
> Jennifer Moxley, Malgorzata Myk, Eileen Myles, Christopher Nealon, Jeffrey
> Joe Nelson, Miriam Nichols, Aldon Nielsen, Peter O'Leary, Tom Orange,
> Richard Owens, Kurt Ozment, Alexander Papanicolopoulos, Justin Parks,
> Sandeep Parmar, Scott Penney, Bob Perelman, Michael Peters, Scott Pound,
> Matthew Powers, Patrick Pritchett, Peter Puchek, Tom Raworth, Joan
> Retallack, Andrew Rippeon, Michael Roberson, Kit Robinson, Phyllis
> Rosenzweig, Douglas Rothschild, Jennifer Russo, Linda Russo, Michael Scharf,
> Andrew Schelling, Judith Schwartz, Lytle Shaw, Kenneth Sherwood, Mark
> Silverberg, Sandra Simonds, Jonathan Skinner, James Smethurst, Ellen Smith,
> Heidi Smith, Paul Stephens, Mindy Stricke, Keston Sutherland, Christine
> Timm, Robin Tremblay-McGaw, Sam Truitt, Keith Tuma, Demetres P.
> Tryphonopoulos, Jeff Twitchell-Waas, Von Underwood, Anna Vitale, Fred Wah,
> Xu (Simon) Wang, Diane Ward, Barrett Watten, Rebecca Weaver, Jillian Weise,
> Donald Wellman, Aaron Winslow, Steven Zultanski.
> >
> >
> >
> > so . . . things are going on
> >
> >
> > ;)
> >
> >
> > cris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 7, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Peter Riley wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > This list is in fact less dead than UKPoetry, and PoetryEtc is in its own
> way entirely gone-to-rest or out-to-lunch.
> >
> > Ian is probably right in saying that things like Facebook are responsible,
> or blogs in general, the refreshing possibility of talking with *friends*...
> >
> > Or is it simply because most people have given up the attempt ?
> >
> >
> > PR
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ian davidson <[log in to unmask]>
> > Reply-To: ian davidson <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:04:42 +0000
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Whatever happened to
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > Bit unfair on Mairead, who I think has done and continues to do a really
> good job, and brings a really interesting perspective to the list.
> >
> > Just went back through the archives and the following have been discussed
> this year.
> >
> >
> > January extended discussion of 20th Century Long Poems, Coleridge, Love
> Poems,
> >
> >
> >
> > February long discussion of british and irish poetry, longer discussion
> on divisions, camps and spectrums, more on love poems,
> >
> > April extended discussion of Laura Riding, Neologism etc
> >
> > All seems useful to me, and relevant to the interests of the list. I'd
> also say one of the legitimate uses of the list is to inform members of
> events, publications etc. There are quiet spells of course.
> >
> > It is probably true that if we look back to the late 90s then that was a
> golden age of listservs, but that was before facebook, my space etc, and a
> million other ways to communicate. I don't think these lists will ever have
> the impact they made then, when they linked people that geography had held
> apart, but they still serve an important purpose, for discussion and
> distribution of information.
> >
> > best
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:06:35 +0100
> > > From: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Whatever happened to
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > 'Whatever happened to the heroes / all those Shakespeareoes'
> > >
> > > Testing testing. Looking for listserve that caters for the interests
> > > of British and Irish innovative poets etc. Can't find it. Used to be
> > > on something called British-Irish poets with interesting people
> > > talking about interesting things (sometimes at least) until its
> > > management was taken over by two people who did not fully understand
> > > or appreciate the interests and inclination of many of its most
> > > faithful members.
> > >
> > > Testing testing.
> > >
> > > Tim A.
> >
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