> A few links that might add to the debate
>
> An example of a people based open model for creating work in the
> performing arts ........Here at body>data>space we work with an
> interauthorship process that we have used successfully for many
> projects over the years ( since 1990 as shinkansen and Future
> Physical) to aid non hierarchical group processes, allow equal input
> and modification in a peer2peer development mode and to enable
> natural emergent dynamics .....see this Group process Brief at
>
> http://www.rescen.net/Ghislaine_Boddington/theweave/item3.html
>
> This process is discussed in the essays on the same site. At present
> we are running our Post Me_New ID project with this methodology too.
> It is used alongside virtual networking, can be adapted for non
> performance projects and we have several operational templates we use
> as part of the process.
>
> Also
> NODE:London is an open organisational model
>
> In order to raise the visibility of media arts practice in and around
> the capital, NODE.London [Networked, Open, Distributed, Events.
> London] has worked as an open organisation, using consensus decision-
> making and pooling ideas, resources and even people. It has sought to
> fortify existing media arts networks and to encourage production and
> experimentation, whilst assisting in the articulation of such
> innovative artistry to a wider audience.
>
> http://www.nodel.org/
> http://wiki.nodel.org/index.php/Main_Page
>
> NODE.London is calling a seasonal gathering of media art, showing how
> London is budding with fresh exhibitions, discussions, musical events
> and participatory projects.
>
> This website will soon be filling with an ongoing programme from
> Spring 2008. Until then, you can browse the archive of the first
> NODE.London season of media arts in March 2006.
>
> NODE.London is open to any person or group who wants to help spread
> media art and related activity around London and beyond! If you would
> like to get involved, please check the NODE.London wiki and come to
> one of our regular meetings and introduce yourself.
i am personally not too convinced or at least sceptical about how well
node.london has worked. and i think its a good example of "open source
model (as in software)" doesn't really work in general creative
collaborations.
i mean, when it first started in 2006, it gathered a lot of momentum under
the name of "open organisation/collaboration/source". but then it kind of
died down completely. it is now more or less a place where people use its
name to announce events and make some kind of node.l event calender.
take a quick look at the node.l's peope page:
http://nodel.org/people.php
i would be very interested to know how many artists on that list are
actually collaborating/organising through node.l. from the ones that i
know, i would guess not that many.
of course, i could be completely wrong, and would be happy to be corrected:)
cheers
chun
>
> also
>
> Upgrade International
> is I understand also run in an open way
> http://www.theupgrade.net/
>
>
> Ghislaine Boddington
> Creative Director
> body>data>space
>
>
>
> On 25 Apr 2008, at 15:12, Al Larsen wrote:
>
>> The Ladyfest arts festivals could be seen as an example of open
>> source principles
>> in community organizing.
>>
>> 1) The notes of the development process of the first festival
>> (Olympia, WA, 2000)
>> were posted online to serve as a resource for others who would want
>> to organize
>> similar events. This included minutes of meetings, budgets,
>> committee structure,
>> etc.
>>
>> 2) The name was offered up for any other groups to use. As I
>> understand it, the
>> only condition was that no city or town host a Ladyfest festival
>> more than once.
>> (This rule was broken in 2005 when another Ladyfest festival took
>> place in Olympia.)
>>
>> More than 100 festivals have taken place since 2000... all over the
>> US and the
>> world (Sweden, Brazil, Mexico, Italy, South Africa, etc).
>>
>>
>> This is the statement from the first Ladyfest festival:
>>
>> Ladyfest is a non-profit, community-based event designed by and for
>> women to
>> showcase, celebrate and encourage the artistic, organizational and
>> political work
>> and talents of women. It will feature performances by bands, spoken
>> word artists,
>> authors, visual artists and more!!! It will include workshops,
>> panels, and dance
>> parties. This is a woman-run event but all are welcome to attend.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Janet,
>>>
>>> Thanks for you reply.
>>>
>>>>> I would be interested if anyone on this list has concrete
>>>>> examples where
>>>>> FLOSS has been used to model a non digital project/community/
>>>>> organisation,
>>>>> beyond the simple inspiration that can provide the openness
>>>>> suggested by
>>>>> FLOSS models and the simple use of FLOSS for production/admin
>>>>> tasks.
>>>>
>>>> Zittrain has been talking about the generative internet
>>>> http://www.isoc-ny.org/\?p=195
>>>> These are all projects where people make in ways which are
>>>> generative.
>>>> http:/wikipedia.org
>>>> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia
>>>> http://en.wikiversity.org/
>>>> http://barcamp.org/
>>>> http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/54
>>>> http://ccmixter.org/
>>>> http://commons.org/
>>>> http://icommons.org/
>>>> http://creativecommons.org/
>>>
>>> I think you misunderstood my question, I was more interested in
>>> learning
>>> about projects and organisations in which the structure of the
>>> organisation is modeled after FLOSS development models, not the
>>> content
>>> that the organisation if occupied with or the tools they use or
>>> develop.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think there is a correlation between the idea of making in a
>>>> generative way and
>>>> the kinds of freedoms which are explicit in GNU/Linux free software.
>>>
>>> By the way, I assume that you meant the freedoms in the GPL license.
>>> In my opinion you cannot compare the freedoms explicit in the GPL
>>> license and at the same time give examples with CC licensed content.
>>> GPL is a workaround to copyright, CC is simplification of copyright.
>>> These are 2 very different things in terms of freedom and ideology.
>>>
>>>
>>> a.
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------
>> Al Larsen
>> MFA Candidate and Instructor
>> Department of Media Study, University at Buffalo
>>
>> http://www.propertyistheft.com/
>> http://www.propertyistheft.com/poppingtheseams/
>> http://www.propertyistheft.com/courses/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri Apr 25 6:13 , aymeric mansoux sent:
>>
>>> Hi Janet,
>>>
>>> Thanks for you reply.
>>>
>>>>> I would be interested if anyone on this list has concrete
>>>>> examples where
>>>>> FLOSS has been used to model a non digital project/community/
>>>>> organisation,
>>>>> beyond the simple inspiration that can provide the openness
>>>>> suggested by
>>>>> FLOSS models and the simple use of FLOSS for production/admin
>>>>> tasks.
>>>>
>>>> Zittrain has been talking about the generative internet
>>>> http://www.isoc-ny.org/\?p=195
>>>> These are all projects where people make in ways which are
>>>> generative.
>>>> http:/wikipedia.org
>>>> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia
>>>> http://en.wikiversity.org/
>>>> http://barcamp.org/
>>>> http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/54
>>>> http://ccmixter.org/
>>>> http://commons.org/
>>>> http://icommons.org/
>>>> http://creativecommons.org/
>>>
>>> I think you misunderstood my question, I was more interested in
>>> learning
>>> about projects and organisations in which the structure of the
>>> organisation is modeled after FLOSS development models, not the
>>> content
>>> that the organisation if occupied with or the tools they use or
>>> develop.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think there is a correlation between the idea of making in a
>>>> generative way and
>>>> the kinds of freedoms which are explicit in GNU/Linux free software.
>>>
>>> By the way, I assume that you meant the freedoms in the GPL license.
>>> In my opinion you cannot compare the freedoms explicit in the GPL
>>> license and at the same time give examples with CC licensed content.
>>> GPL is a workaround to copyright, CC is simplification of copyright.
>>> These are 2 very different things in terms of freedom and ideology.
>>>
>>>
>>> a.
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------
>> Al Larsen
>> MFA Candidate and Instructor
>> Department of Media Study, University at Buffalo
>>
>> http://www.propertyistheft.com/
>> http://www.propertyistheft.com/poppingtheseams/
>> http://www.propertyistheft.com/courses/
>
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