I was considering looking at texts on shamanism which my hunch would be that
there might be references to the age of practitioners when psychedelics are
used in shamanic practice. In any event I thought maybe folks on this list
had possibly encountered this belief that age impacts the effect of
psychedelics in magical practice.
On 5/28/08 12:52 PM, "Damien" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Age and the use of psychedelic drugs for magical practitioners?
>
> What kind of studies might there Be?
> --- James John Bell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>
>> At a recent gathering of practitioners we were discussing
>> psychedelics, and
>> those that use it in their practice explained that psychedelics and
>> especially LSD works best with minds over 40 years old, that itıs a
>> completely different experience than what was had in high school and
>> the
>> ³bad trip² is more associated with young inexperienced minds. Since
>> it came
>> up on this list is there any truth to this assertion? Is age and
>> psychedelics covered in any specific reference books?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> On 5/28/08 5:05 AM, "kaostar" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> : )
>>>
>>> in similar light:
>>>
>>> i have reviewed Andy Letcher's SHROOM: A Cultural History fo the
>> magic
>>> Mushroom for the JSM
>>>
>>> and have a promise of the forthcoming cultural history of LSD by
>> Andy Roberts
>>> (in press, expected early July) for review purposes too
>>>
>>> dave e
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message -----------
>>> From: Hagay Hacohen <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Tue, 27 May 2008 23:54:38 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Reading Suggestions
>>>
>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>>
>>>>> While I'm not familiar with the legal aspect of drug usage in
>> the UK I
>>>> would STRONGLY suggest to do a great deal of research before
>> starting on the
>>>> psychedelic path. "The Antipodes of the mind - Charting the
>> phenomenology of
>>>> the Ayahuasca experience." by Benny Shanon (Oxford Uni Press 2002
>> , 475
>>>> pages) Is a good place to start if you're keen on the academic
>> aspect.
>>>> This site will provide you with more practical info:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.erowid.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> It is quite possible that the topic of psychedelics was covered
>> at length
>>>> on the forums before. However, I strongly suggest that even after
>> doing the
>>>> research, reading the books, and covering various on-line forums
>> you will be
>>>> better off if you actually find real people living close to you
>> who have been
>>>> on that path. A book or a laptop will not be able to talk you
>> down from a bad
>>>> trip. Also, and this is another point worth minding, too much
>> yoga will make
>>>> you tired and you may strain a muscle. Too much book reading will
>> make you
>>>> pale and bookish. Even cults and "secret" orders can be left if
>> one is
>>>> unhappy there. (People can quit working even for MI5 right?:) But
>> once you've
>>>> taken a drug it's in your system to stay. Think about this.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hagay Hacohen
>>>>>
>>>>> PS
>>>>>
>>>>> Hanif Kureishi has a fantastic short story about (Among other
>> things) drug
>>>> usage and body culture. Pick up "The Body" London, Faber and
>> Faber, for a
>>>> good read.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon Deschene <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. I had no idea where to begin and it
>> looks like
>>>>>> the above titles will give me a couple of different angles
>> from which to
>>>>>> tackle the subject. Much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dude. you need a beer"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that's a response to the wordiness of the sentence, I
>> apologize. If to
>>>>>> the subject, psychedelics may have been a better suggestion.
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> ------- End of Original Message -------
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --Wolven
> On shaded wings drift
> FireDark discoveries
> Soul Architecture.
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