Thanks, Seb. Obviously it's the schema I need to check out. Looking in
Jim's RSS I could see the opensearch stuff but need to read the spec to
see quite what it's doing to help (clearly page size and number, number
of search results etc are pretty crucial, though).
Thanks for the link to your feed, too, because I went to your site
earlier knowing that I should be able to get search results in this form
but couldn't find how, via the regular search interface. Are you going
to put a feed URL into your OPAC results, or did I miss it?
Cheers, Jeremy
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From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Chan, Sebastian
Sent: 11 April 2008 12:11
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Subject: Re: [MCG] OpenSearch and RSS at the National Maritime Museum
Jeremy
The value of Opensearch is NOT the sitewide search on the institutions
themselves (the Firefox/IE box *is* a gimmick), but the ability to take
a search result and recntextualise it on another site altogether.
Eg - mix the search results for the Powerhouse's set of compasses -
www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/opensearch/search.php?s=com
pass&start=1&show=50
with the search reuslts from the NMM's set of compasses -
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/requestHandlers/doQuickSearch.cfm?searc
hterm=compass&startrow=1&format=rss
Opensearch provides the schema, RSS the transport.
Remembering that these feeds are *live*. They don't rely on a harvest
nor the existence of a repository. I remove a compass from my
collection, the feed no longer shows that compass. Immediately.
That said, Opensearch does have serious limitations but given it's
absurbly low barriers to entry I really can't understand why every
museum in the UK doesn't already have it on their collection search.
Seb
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From: Museums Computer Group on behalf of Ottevanger, Jeremy
Sent: Fri 11/04/2008 8:50 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OpenSearch and RSS at the National Maritime Museum
Great work, Jim. Time for us to follow (yet again).
I get an error, though:
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Internet Explorer cannot display this feed
This feed contains code errors.
Go back to the previous page.
More information
The following tags were not closed: rss, channel.
Line: 0 Character: 0
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http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/requestHandlers/doQuickSearch.cfm?searc
hterm=midshipman&startrow=&format=rss
Looking in Mozilla and checking the source, it looks like an error is
stopping the feed from being written completely before it's flushed:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/"
xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
xmlns:dcterms="http://purl.org/dc/terms/">
<channel>
<title>midshipman - National Maritime Museum Collections
Online</title>
<link>http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/requestHandlers/doQuickSearch.cfm
?searchterm=midshipman&authority=category&category=&startrow
=</link>
<description><![CDATA[]]></description>
<copyright>National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, London</copyright>
<atom:link
href="http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/requestHandlers/doQuickSearch.cfm
?searchterm=midshipman&authority=category&category=&startrow
=&format=rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
<openSearch:totalResults>132</openSearch:totalResults>
<openSearch:startIndex></openSearch:startIndex>
<openSearch:itemsPerPage>20</openSearch:itemsPerPage>
The value "" cannot be converted to a number
....and that's it. Hence IE's error. Turns out that it's because the
value for statrow is missing from the URL - putting "1" in there fixed
it.
I'm trying to figure out just how much value of the OpenSearch part
would offer us(as with many sites, most of our pages have a site-wide
search box anyway), but your use of it for collections-specific search
is a possible answer. And the other thing, of course, is that the really
cool thing you've done is the RSS part, not the OpenSearch part -
likewise Perry's work in Bolton. Your data is now out in the wild.
You've taken a sensible approach to structuring your data, mixing DC and
RSS, and it looks like a good model to follow. Now let's see the
mashups!
Cheers, Jeremy
Jeremy Ottevanger
Web Developer, Museum Systems Team
Museum of London Group
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London. N1 7ED
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From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Jim O'Donnell
Sent: 10 April 2008 17:33
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Subject: [MCG] OpenSearch and RSS at the National Maritime Museum
Hi everyone,
You might be interested to know that we've added support for opensearch,
and RSS news feeds, to http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections So any list of
objects should now be available as a feed, including search results, and
'NMM Collections' should be available as a search engine in any browser
that supports opensearch.
http://eatyourgreens.org.uk/archives/2008/04/opening_up_muse.html
I'd be interested to know if anyone has thoughts on potential uses for
RSS feeds like this.
Jim
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