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Re: Sufragan Bishops

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Andrew Larsen <[log in to unmask]>

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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

Just on a whim, I googled 'Navatensis', and came up with a number of pages
that discuss Bottlesham's diocese.
    John Strype, _Handbook to the Historical and Biographical Works of John
Strype_ (Oxford, 1828) suggests it is an error for Landavensis (Llandaff),
but Bottlesham wasn't made bishop of Llandaff until several years later.
    Thomas Brett, _Suffragan Bishops and Rural Deans (Oxford, 1858),
includes a suggestion that it might have been a corruption of 'urbs
nativitatensis', ie Bethlehem.
    Stubbs in _Registrum Sacrum Anglicanum_ suggests it was Pavada in the
province of Constantinople.
    Brett's suggestion seems the most plausible linguistically (and given
that Bottlesham was definitely bishop of Bethlehem a few years later), but
it seems unlikely that 'urbs nativitatensis' would be used in officoal
documents. But overall, a see in partibus infidelibus seems more plausible
than Nantes.
    Just yesterday I ran into a good example of why it's important to look
closely at these titles.  I was reading an unpublished dissertation and ran
across a reference to the bishop of York acting as a confessor to King
Charles VI of France.  This was obviously a mistake, since York is an
archbishopric, and it seemed quite odd that an English archbishop would be
confessor to a French king during the Hundred Years War.  After digging
through the footnotes, I found the original Latin, 'episcopus Ebroicensis'
('Bishop of Evreux'), which makes much more sense.

Andrew E. Larsen

On 3/19/08 4:22 PM, "Rosemary Hayes-Milligan and Andrew Milligan"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
> 
> John I am now back home.  I agree that Eubel is rare (I had to sit in the
> 'special' part of the National Library of Scotland to read it the other day)
> but Emden and the Handbook of British Chronology should be available at most
> good reference libraries.  Emden is now out of print and exorbitant to buy
> second hand but HBC is still available for 53 from Cambridge University
> Press and 38 from Amazon.  As it lists all known (3rd edn 1986) kings,
> office holders, bishops, lords, parliaments, convocations, etc I find it
> invaluable to have by my desk and even felt able to buy it as an
> impoverished postgraduate.  I also bought the modern edition of Le Neve's
> Fasti which the Institute of Historical Research was selling very cheaply
> some years ago - they are now available for 20 a volume but their indexes
> are on History On-Line (www.history.ac.uk).
> 
> If you would like me to send you a copy of the pages on suffragans (5) from
> HBC, I can try to send them as an email attachment (if I can scan them) or
> send a photocopy by post.  Let me know.  By the way, HBC lists Bottlesham as
> bishop 'Navatensis' - but does not identify the diocese.
> 
> I have also checked the RHS bibliography (www.rhs.ac.uk/bibl) and it
> produced the following articles (the first of which may very well answer all
> your questions - or may not as is the nature of things academic):
> 
> Butler, Lawrence A. S. 'Suffragan bishops in the medieval diocese of York'.
> Northern History, 37 (2000), 49-60. Publisher: Maney. ISSN 0078172X.
> 
> O'Connor, Donal. 'Eugenius, bishop of Ardmore and Suffragan at Lichfield
> (1184-5)'. Decies: Journal of the Waterford Archaeological & Historical
> Society, 60 (2004), 71-90.
> 
> Smith, David M. (David Michael). 'Suffragan bishops in the medieval diocese
> of Lincoln'. Lincolnshire History and Archaeology, 17 (1982), 17-27. ISSN
> 04594487.
> 
> Smith, David M. (David Michael). 'The episcopate of Richard, bishop of St.
> Asaph : a problem of twelfth century chronology'. Publications of the
> Historical Society of the Church in Wales, 24 (1974), 9-12.
> 
> Dahlerup, Troels. 'Orkney Bishops as Suffragans in the Scandinavian-Baltic
> Area : an aspect of the late medieval church in the North'. In Simpson,
> Grant Gray (ed.), Scotland and Scandinavia, 800-1800 (Edinburgh, 1990),
> 38-47.
> 
> I hope this is of some use.
> 
> Best wishes
> Rosemary Hayes
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Briggs" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [M-R] Sufragan Bishops
> 
> 
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>> 
>> John Briggs wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perusing the edition of the Pontifical of Christopher Bainbridge,
>>> Archbishop of York, I discover that his suffragan was John Hatton,
>>> Archdeacon of Nottingham and Bishop of Negropont.  Wasn't that rather
>>> unusual?  I was under the impression that in late medieval England
>>> suffragan bishops were usually Irish bishops - or rather, that
>>> recourse was had to someone whose nominal see was in Ireland, but who
>>> rarely went near the place.  Are there any other instances of having
>>> one of your own clergy appointed to a titular see?
>> 
>> OK, to answer my own question: I don't have access to sources that people
>> have mentioned, so I have had recourse to a crude online version of
>> Stubbs' Registrum Sacrum Anglicanum.  It would appear that Hatton was
>> appointed Prebendary of Givendale (York) in 1503; and Prebendary of
>> Ulleskelf in 1504. He was appointed Archdeacon of Nottingham in 1506,
>> having apparently become Bishop of Negropont (in partibus infidelium) the
>> same year.  He was appointed as Suffragan by Bainbridge when he became
>> Archbishop of York in 1508, but it seems to me likely that Hatton had been
>> Suffragan to Bainbridge's predecessor, Thomas Savage. (Just to complicate
>> matters, Bainbridge had been Dean of York from 1503 to 1505, so would have
>> known Hatton.) Hatton was succeeded as Bishop of Negropont in 1515 (he
>> died in 1516) by Richard Wilson, Prior of Drax, who was Suffragan to
>> Thomas Wolsley 1515-18. I still see him as an "in-house" appointment,
>> which doesn't seem to be the general pattern.
>> 
>> The use of Suffragans in partibus infidelium becomes increasingly popular
>> from 1340 until 1534, when following the Act of Supremacy they are
>> superseded by the Suffragan Bishops Act [still in force - authorising
>> their appointment and allowing them to take the titles of towns within the
>> diocese], England having lost contact with the "partes infidelium"...
>> 
>> John Briggs
>> 
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