I'm not particularly enamoured of Facebook (or Second Life for that
matter) but I have to point out:
1/. Facebook has been around for four years now. How old does it need
to be before it isn't a 'fad' anymore?
2/. The "uneducated teen", by and large, isn't using these
applications. The demographics for Facebook for example indicate that
the majority of users are well out of their teens. I believe Second
Life shows similar demographics.
I think I agree with the point about looking for the lowest common
denominator, if I've understood it correctly. I think I detect a trend
among web applications towards this principle - Twitter being a good
example.
Paul
On 28 Mar 2008, at 19:26, Marcus Kirsch wrote:
> I would like to side with Nick.
>
> Being over 30 and having worked at early adopter and promoting
> insitutions
> such as the Royal College of Arts, London Design Interaction MA and
> Dublins Medialab Europe, I cant help but be very bored by the push
> of new
> technology without really having an agenda for why we are really doing
> this as museums (am now working at Science Museum and having
> previously
> being working at the Natural History Museum in London).
>
> The result is always the same. Museums while getting their budgets
> cut by
> the government, end up paying nearly double to private companies, to
> stay
> afloat with their new media services or selling reputation away by
> getting
> in sponsors to pay for aforementioned services, e.g. Shell.
>
> And then their is the continous discussion of the latest fad. "Lets
> get
> everything tagged with RFID", "lets rebuild the museum in second
> life or
> on facebook". And two months later suddenly the numbers of
> commercial(!)
> fads like facebook and second life dont look so rosy anymore (anyone
> ever
> met ANYONE in the second life American Apparell shop??)
>
> If museums keep failing at building digital value out of their assets,
> because many seem to be more concerned about personal matters, then we
> will see a time where the government is not sponsoring places of
> culture
> and education anymore, but sponsoring advertising and green
> appearance for
> the private sector.
>
> We have to start looking into solutions with the lowest common
> denominator
> and that are future proof and not at this weeks tech craze for the
> uneducated teen who knows nothing but phones and facebook apps
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Hi Nick et al
>>
>> This is a fascinating conversation that is echoed all over the museum
>> world.
>>
>> I'll take you up on only one thing - getting towards the over 35
>> category
>> myself in just a few days (well, 35 actually) I agree with you on
>> overload
>> and the need for 'packaging' . . . But . . .
>>
>>> People *do* want websites - because we have a consumer population
>>> that
>>> are
>>> used to information being packaged and presented, and they are
>>> used to
>>> making
>>> qualitative decisions about the value of that information based on
>>> brand
>>> and
>>> credibility.
>>
>> I think it is naïve to assume that museums, themselves, will be the
>> websites where consumers get their museum information in the future.
>> Particularly for the smaller museums it may be that they better serve
>> their audiences by having their content aggregated by bigger fish -
>> fish
>> that might not even be, shock horror, British. (Although I expect the
>> reality is that someone like the BBC is best placed to interlink
>> everything - as are most large media).
>>
>> This is not going to be the case in the immediate future but as
>> soon as we
>> start seeing mobile *really* happen then the idea of 'visiting a
>> museum
>> website to look at something' becomes less and less likely.
>>
>> More on that for anyone who bails me up in Montreal at MW08. I will
>> have
>> with me some shiny new prototypes to demonstrate exactly what I
>> mean . . .
>>
>> Seb
>>
>>
>> Sebastian Chan
>> Manager, Web Services
>> Powerhouse Museum
>> street - 500 Harris St Ultimo, NSW Australia
>> postal - PO Box K346, Haymarket, NSW 1238
>> tel - 61 2 9217 0109
>> fax - 61 2 9217 0689
>> e - [log in to unmask]
>> w - www.powerhousemuseum.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Nick
>> Poole
>> Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2008 11:49 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: The speculative aspect of using Web 2 [was: British
>> Postal
>> Museum & Archive Wiki]
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Thanks for this. I want to check something though, to do with your
>> assertion:
>>
>>> More importantly we're also *still* (after all these years...)
>>> thinking in terms of "a flowable, understandable, linear user
>>> experience" through "our website". This is NOT (repeat...) how the
>>> web
>>> works any more.
>>
>> At the risk of sounding like the 'television? That'll never catch
>> on...'
>> guy - I'm really not sure I agree with you.
>>
>> Up there at the bleeding edge of where the Web goes next there is an
>> almost axiomatic mantra (non-linear, fragmented, participative).
>> For real,
>> non-technologist users who are seeking information or
>> entertainment, all
>> this non-linearity is frankly a bit annoying - for every tech guru
>> I've
>> met who says that UGC is the future of media, I meet someone over
>> the age
>> of 35 who finds it a bit irksome that all these websites are suddenly
>> asking them to write stuff for them.
>>
>> People *do* want websites - because we have a consumer population
>> that are
>> used to information being packaged and presented, and they are used
>> to
>> making qualitative decisions about the value of that information
>> based on
>> brand and credibility.
>>
>> I am a bit concerned that these developments are really being
>> pushed by
>> technology - it's almost as if we said 'ok, we've separated content
>> from
>> presentation, we've got stuff in repositories, we've done some
>> interoperability stuff. So...er..now what? I know! We can mash it all
>> together to create new things, which aren't websites, but which are
>> a bit
>> like them, only different.'
>>
>> Of course, there is a younger demographic who are Bebo-ing themselves
>> silly, but they'll grow up and there is always the possibility that
>> they'll grow out of it. I *really* don't want to sit on enthusiasm
>> and
>> innovation, and I completely accept the 'speculative can lead to
>> longer-term' argument which Tehmina puts forward but how do we
>> distinguish
>> real, permanent seismic shifts in the nature of the Web and online
>> consumers from the short-term whorls and eddies of fashion?
>>
>> I am sick of my Facebook, I haven't been back to my MySpace in
>> weeks, my
>> Bebo account is almost dead, I've got at least 4 moribund blogs and
>> every
>> time I post a comment on a Wiki I get flamed by an American
>> teenager. Is
>> this really the brave new world we want to build?
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick Poole
>> Chief Executive
>> MDA
>>
>> www.mda.org.uk
>> www.collectionslink.org.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel: 01223 316028
>> Fax: 01223 364658
>>
>> MDA (Europe) Ltd: Company Registration No: 1300565 Reg. Office: 22
>> Hills
>> Road, Cambridge, CB2 1JP.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> electronic museum
>> Sent: 27 March 2008 12:31
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: The speculative aspect of using Web 2 [was: British
>> Postal
>> Museum & Archive Wiki]
>>
>> Oof. So much to respond to and so little time.
>>
>> In brief..I think we're in danger of making some fairly classic
>> museum
>> type generalisations, about "what people want" "what they need"
>> "what they
>> might want if we showed it to them"..
>>
>> More importantly we're also *still* (after all these years...)
>> thinking in
>> terms of "a flowable, understandable, linear user experience"
>> through "our
>> website". This is NOT (repeat...) how the web works any more. I'm
>> not sure
>> it ever was, tbh, and that's why we (as a sector) have often found
>> ourselves building things which ought to be popular, but aren't.
>> It's also
>> why some of the things we didn't expect to be popular actually
>> turned out
>> to be huge!
>>
>> Let's take Twitter as one example in a field of hundreds. Mode of
>> use is
>> probably NOT "hey, a museum on Twitter, I'll follow it". Mode of use
>> probably IS "I've seen something interesting which HAPPENS to be on a
>> museum website and I'll post it to Twitter...". Result - clicks,
>> visibility - a good thing at least as far as funders are concerned.
>> <insert argument here />
>>
>> People are fickle; the web is loosely coupled; users get whatever
>> it is
>> they're looking for (and some things they didn't know they were
>> looking
>> for) wherever they can. A lot of your traffic IS NOT YOUR AUDIENCE
>> but
>> PEOPLE WHO HAPPENED UPON YOUR STUFF.
>>
>> So what does this mean to development of services? Predictably, it's
>> complicated. There *has* to be an element of *push* (or we'd still be
>> rolling out endless damn catalogues of boring stuff) but at the
>> same time
>> there also *has* to be an element of user testing, too.
>>
>> Here's where I am on this stuff - Groundhog day-like I notice I
>> posted it
>> following a similar MCG thread... http://tinyurl.com/yvpgmx :-) ta!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Tehmina Goskar <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Nick. You are right in many senses. No one wants to waste
>>> money.
>>> However I very much see many of these things in the same way as
>>> other
>>> short to medium-term ventures: temporary exhibitions, conferences,
>>> workshops and other 'events'. For any longer term online
>>> sustainability and visibility I can't think of any better way to
>>> achieve this than to invest properly in well-described
>>> collections-based and subject-based information that is well
>>> designed
>>> and detectable.
>>>
>>> Perhaps therefore we also need to add longevity aims to this
>>> equation?
>>> A
>>> sandbox sounds interesting though I wonder if some may prefer just
>>> to
>>> go for it? I have no opinion on this either way but I feel very
>>> strongly that the more people exchange their experiences, the better
>>> informed others will be.
>>> No project is directly transferrable but lessons learnt certainly
>>> are.
>>>
>>> As for twitter specifically, I don't use it as I don't want to tell
>>> people what I am doing every few moments (though it is all extremely
>>> interesting of
>>> course) nor do I wish to know what others are doing. However would
>>> some event at a museum be well-served with a twitter-esque
>>> application?
>>> Perhaps
>>> it would. Therefore such things can also help aid creative problem
>>> solving at a relatively negligible cost.
>>>
>>> And I wonder where the prejudice against the Siliconites comes from?
>>> If we look within our own broad community, we all do and think of
>>> things in different ways, we wouldn't all want to be thought of in
>>> the
>>> same way, surely? Can we ever say we've reached the 'wrong'
>>> audience
>>> when doing stuff on the web?
>>>
>>> Tehmina
>>>
>>> On 27/03/2008, Nick Poole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tehmina,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for a very interesting and balanced post. I think you are
>>>> correct
>>> -
>>>> there is an element of exploration involved here, which is
>>>> obviously
>>>> an important part of innovation. My concern with these things has
>>>> always
>>> been
>>>> the risk of a large number of museums investing in basically
>>> unsustainable
>>>> services which do little to support their core mission.
>>>>
>>>> On the subject of Twitter, you ask which museum wouldn't want the
>>>> brief attention of a million people. Firstly, it is highly unlikely
>>>> that of
>>> this
>>>> million claimed users, more than a couple of tens of thousands are
>>> *really*
>>>> active users (it's the same issue with Second Life's claimed
>>> population).
>>>> This really is a niche market, and my answer would be that even a
>>> million
>>>> brief viewers is of little use at all if it's the *wrong* million,
>>>> or if
>>> our
>>>> information is lost in a torrent of in-jokes and Silicon Valley
>>>> startup party invites.
>>>>
>>>> We need to think hard about which problems we are going to try and
>>> solve,
>>>> and then identify the best technologies to do so. Imagine a world
>>>> in
>>> which
>>>> Twitter did not exist (give it a couple of years...) would you
>>>> really
>>> invent
>>>> a constantly-updated trivia machine as the best way of
>>>> communicating
>>> with
>>>> museum audiences?
>>>>
>>>> I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't.
>>>>
>>>> Which takes us back to your original proposition - how do museums
>>>> find
>>> the
>>>> time and money to play with innovative/speculative services, even
>>>> where these don't necessarily resolve to long-term changes in the
>>>> way we do things? I know that Eduserv were looking at investing
>>>> in a
>>> sandbox/incubator
>>>> in which museums could muck about with stuff. I think there is real
>>>> potential in having a safe 'playground' in which to test these
>>> propositions
>>>> before they become live services. Is this something which people
>>>> would
>>> find
>>>> appealing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nick Poole
>>>> Chief Executive
>>>> MDA
>>>>
>>>> www.mda.org.uk
>>>> www.collectionslink.org.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 01223 316028
>>>> Fax: 01223 364658
>>>>
>>>> MDA (Europe) Ltd: Company Registration No: 1300565 Reg. Office: 22
>>>> Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 1JP.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>>> Of Tehmina Goskar
>>>> Sent: 27 March 2008 10:23
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: The speculative aspect of using Web 2 [was: British
>>>> Postal Museum & Archive Wiki]
>>>>
>>>> There is also, of course, the speculative aspect of using web 2
>>>> methods
>>> to
>>>> either solicit user response or get them to create information for
>>>> you
>>> or
>>>> spread your information elsewhere. As both Mike and Nick note,
>>>> every organisation and project has specific needs and aims and
>>>> these
>>>> are the things that should come first. However I wonder if many
>>>> organisations
>>> big
>>>> and small are using social networking tools and related
>>>> applications
>>>> in
>>> a
>>>> speculative way - to see what happens. This may result in
>>> 'interactions'
>>>> far beyond expectations or more modest ones but certainly quite
>>>> often unexpected ones.
>>>>
>>>> Many of us who have used flickr, for example, have done so with a
>>>> desire simply to share information with no specific view on _who_
>>>> we
>>>> should
>>> share
>>>> these things with. As an individual, I have done the same and have
>>>> been quite surprised at some of the interest in my photographs,
>>>> e.g.
>>>> for a southern American recipe book, for a citizenship website, for
>>>> an alternative health documentary, for a popular archaeological
>>>> textbook... some have also been shared on enthusiasts websites
>>>> including one on manhole covers. I did not seek any of these
>>>> outcomes - and certainly did not expect them. Museums and heritage
>>>> organisations who do the same will likewise not always know how
>>>> such
>>>> things will turn out.
>>>>
>>>> A propos the previous post on the critique of apps such as twitter,
>>>> a million people may not be a big number for Oracle or Cisco but
>>>> which museum online or otherwise would not want a million people's
>>>> attention, however brief, on their collections and information?
>>>> The
>>>> technology is also reciprocal. It's not all about what our
>>>> audiences will get out of it
>>> but
>>>> what _we_ can get out of it too.
>>>>
>>>> There is, for sure, a horses for courses basic rule to using web
>>>> applications to increase awareness of your organisation and its
>>>> information but there is also a speculative aspect which, it seems
>>>> to me, is
>>> important
>>>> -
>>>> there is also an element of this to putting on temporary
>>>> exhibitions
>>>> -
>>> it
>>>> is
>>>> not always clear who will be interested in them and results can
>>> sometimes
>>>> be
>>>> surprising. How you weigh up this speculation against time and
>>>> resource costs is a more difficult matter to resolve. The choice
>>>> just needs to
>>> be
>>>> well-informed.
>>>>
>>>> Tehmina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27/03/2008, Nick Poole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rhiannon,
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for your email about the BPMA Wiki. I would be really
>>>>> interested to know more about why the BPMA took the decision to
>>>> implement a
>>>>> Wiki. Is it something your online audience have been requesting?
>>>>> Is
>>>> there a
>>>>> specific target demographic for whom a Wiki is their preferred
>>>>> form of interaction?
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason I ask is because of your comment about taking time to
>>>>> get people on there. Of course, this may simply be the inertia
>>>>> faced by
>>> any
>>>>> fledgling service, but at the same time I am not sure whether this
>>>>> is central to your mission or an incidental add-on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to be too negative about things, but (bearing in mind the
>>>>> recent exchange between Frankie and Mike) I remain sceptical about
>>>>> the appropriateness of models like social networking and
>>>>> participative
>>> media
>>>> to
>>>>> the delivery of museums online. As Mike notes, there's no hard and
>>> fast
>>>> rule
>>>>> - it's appropriate when it's appropriate - but I'd be really
>>> interested
>>>> to
>>>>> know whether this is a case of 'because we can' or whether there
>>>>> is a genuine audience/marketing driver behind this thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, I'd be very interested to know more about the outcomes
>>>>> of
>>>> your
>>>>> dissertation - not just from a quantitative point of view (how
>>>>> many
>>>> museums
>>>>> are doing this), but also from a qualitative one (of those
>>>>> museums,
>>> how
>>>> may
>>>>> are doing it well, and how many will still be an actively
>>>>> supported
>>>> resource
>>>>> in 2 years time).
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I see the potential of crowdsourcing interpretation and
>>>>> selection, and the Wiki model certainly offers a potential channel
>>>>> for people to get at the museums back-end systems, but I think we
>>>>> run the
>>>> risk
>>>>> of overlooking the very specific psychology and demographics of
>>>>> User Generated Content, and regarding it as something appropriate
>>>>> for a generalist audience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any further info gratefully received!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick Poole
>>>>> Chief Executive
>>>>> MDA
>>>>>
>>>>> www.mda.org.uk
>>>>> www.collectionslink.org.uk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: 01223 316028
>>>>> Fax: 01223 364658
>>>>>
>>>>> MDA (Europe) Ltd: Company Registration No: 1300565 Reg. Office: 22
>>>>> Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 1JP.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Rhiannon Looseley
>>>>> Sent: 26 March 2008 17:43
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: British Postal Museum & Archive Wiki
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought some of you might be interested in hearing about the new
>>>>> British Postal Museum & Archive (BPMA) Wiki:
>>>>> www.postalheritage.org.uk/wiki. It's based on Zwiki technology
>>>>> which
>>> is
>>>>> Zope/Plone developers' answer to Wiki technology.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a bit of an experiment and at the moment, unsurprisingly,
>>>>> it's taking a bit of time to get people on there. I've started a
>>>>> few
>>> 'seeds'
>>>>> to get people started. At the bottom of this email is an example
>>>>> of
>>> the
>>>>> email we sent out to our E-Newsletter mailing list to try and
>>> encourage
>>>>> people to contribute. It gives you an example of some of the
>>>>> seeds we're using at the moment. We've created similar flyers and
>>> newsletter
>>>>> articles as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be interested in hearing any suggestions others might have
>>>>> on topics we could use to get people started and also experiences
>>>>> of building up a community like this. I'm particularly keen to
>>>>> find ways of making the most of Wikis' potential for collaborative
>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also if you're interested, I'm currently writing my MA in Museum
>>> Studies
>>>>> Dissertation on Museum Wikis, with ours as a case study. I'm
>>>>> blogging about my progress at:
>>>>> http://rhiannonlooseley.blogspot.com if anyone
>>> is
>>>>> interested in following my progress. I'd welcome any comments
>>>>> along
>>> the
>>>>> way (please let me know if you specifically don't want me to quote
>>> your
>>>>> comments, either on my blog, or by email, in my dissertation).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rhiannon Looseley
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Rhiannon Looseley
>>>>>
>>>>> Web Officer
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: 020 7239 2588
>>>>>
>>>>> Fax: 020 7239 2576
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>>> The British Postal Museum & Archive (BPMA)
>>>>>
>>>>> Freeling House, Phoenix Place, London WC1X 0DL
>>>>>
>>>>> www.postalheritage.org.uk <http://www.postalheritage.org.uk/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> British postal communications helped to shape the modern world.
>>>>> The British Postal Museum & Archive illuminates the lives of
>>>>> people in the Post Office, the messages carried by Royal Mail, the
>>>>> history we all share. Our history through the post.
>>>>>
>>>>> The BPMA is the public identity of the Postal Heritage Trust.
>>>>>
>>>>> Registered as a charity in England and Wales.
>>>>> Registered Charity Number 1102360
>>>>> Company Number 4896056
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Family History Research
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Researching your postal ancestors? Want to share what you've
>>> discovered
>>>>> with a wider audience? Why not use the Wiki to tell others about
>>>>> your research?
>>>>>
>>>>> Use the Wiki Family history research
>>>>> <http://www.massmailer.co.uk/go.php?RKKH2J8JU8N459OE7Q6963B7UOK4YS
>>>>> TV>
>>>>> page to get started.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Postal History
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know a lot about a certain aspect of postal history? Have
>>>>> you uncovered a particularly interesting story in our archive? Why
>>>>> not
>>> tell
>>>>> us more about them on the Wiki?
>>>>>
>>>>> Use the Wiki Postal history
>>>>> <http://www.massmailer.co.uk/go.php?RKKH2J8JU8N459OEYMPO78SIJ7MY0J
>>>>> O3>
>>>>> page to get started.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Working with our collections
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you/do you work for the Post Office? Do you recognise some of
>>>>> the objects and documents in our Collections section
>>>>> <http://www.massmailer.co.uk/go.php?RKKH2J8JU8N459OE0QP7O71MVGI0PI
>>>>> QW>
>>> ?
>>>>> Why not tell us about what it was/is like to work with them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Use the Wiki Working with our collections
>>>>> <http://www.massmailer.co.uk/go.php?RKKH2J8JU8N459OEBHDGUI0DHZ2L69
>>>>> O7>
>>>>> page to get started.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Working for the Post Office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you/do you work for the Post Office or Royal Mail? Tell us
>>>>> about your experiences on the Wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think has changed over the years? We'd be interested
>>>>> to
>>> hear
>>>>> what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Use the Wiki Working for the Post Office
>>>>> <http://www.massmailer.co.uk/go.php?RKKH2J8JU8N459OECZXA1DOTRLJIRJ
>>>>> AD>
>>>>> to get started.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Letter boxes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a digital image of a particularly interesting letter
>>> box?
>>>>> Why not upload your image to the Wiki and tell us more about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a letter box near you that you would like to know more
>>> about?
>>>>> Maybe someone else out there can help you with your query. You
>>>>> could post a question on the Wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> Use the Wiki Letter boxes
>>>>> <http://www.massmailer.co.uk/go.php?RKKH2J8JU8N459OE789FM2I4ZDYIV4
>>>>> 91>
>>>>> page to get started.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> War Memorials in the Post Office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you noticed a War Memorial in your local Post Office? Please
>>>>> help us compile our database of Post Office War Memorials.
>>>>>
>>>>> Use our Wiki War Memorials in the Post Office
>>>>> <http://www.massmailer.co.uk/go.php?RKKH2J8JU8N459OETUG225U1E5M98X
>>>>> FF>
>>>>> page to get started.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>>>> ------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **************************************************
>>>>> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
>>>>> visit
>>>> the
>>>>> website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
>>>>> **************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>> **************************************************
>>>>> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
>>>>> visit
>>>> the
>>>>> website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
>>>>> **************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tehmina Goskar, MA AMA
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> Web Communication Development for Culture, Heritage and Academia
>>>> Museum Specialist Historian
>>>>
>>>> **************************************************
>>>> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
>>>> visit
>>> the
>>>> website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
>>>> **************************************************
>>>>
>>>> **************************************************
>>>> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
>>>> visit
>>> the
>>>> website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
>>>> **************************************************
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tehmina Goskar, MA AMA
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Web Communication Development for Culture, Heritage and Academia
>>> Museum Specialist Historian
>>>
>>> **************************************************
>>> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
>>> visit
>>> the website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
>>> **************************************************
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ________________________________________________
>>
>> electronic museum
>>
>> ..thoughts on museums, the social web, innovation
>>
>> w: http://www.electronicmuseum.org.uk
>> f: http://electronicmuseum.wordpress.com/feed
>> e: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> **************************************************
>> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
>> visit the
>> website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
>> **************************************************
>>
>> **************************************************
>> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
>> visit the
>> website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
>> **************************************************
>>
>> =========================Important
>> Notice=====================================
>> This email and attachments are for the use of the intended
>> recipient(s)
>> only and may contain confidential or legally privileged information
>> or
>> material that is copyright of Powerhouse Museum or a third party.
>> If you
>> have received this email in error, please notify the sender
>> immediately
>> and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must
>> not
>> use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior
>> permission. Any views expressed in this message and attachments are
>> those
>> of the individual sender and the Powerhouse Museum accepts no
>> liability
>> for the content of this message. Whilst every care has been taken,
>> the
>> Powerhouse Museum cannot guarantee that the integrity of this email
>> has
>> been maintained nor that the email is free of errors or viruses. The
>> Powerhouse Museum advises all organisations and individuals to
>> undertake
>> their own virus scanning and security measures.
>> =
>> =
>> =
>> =
>> =
>> =
>> =
>> =
>> =
>> =====================================================================
>>
>> **************************************************
>> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
>> visit the
>> website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
>> **************************************************
>>
>
> **************************************************
> For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list,
> visit the website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
> **************************************************
--------------------------------------------
Paul Walk
Technical Manager
UKOLN (University of Bath)
http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/
[log in to unmask]
+44(0)1225383933
--------------------------------------------
**************************************************
For mcg information and to manage your subscription to the list, visit the website at http://www.museumscomputergroup.org.uk
**************************************************
|
