If indeed Neolithic pits have been found in the 2/3rds of the site
that was supposedly under water in the Neolithic, this does rather
call into question the whole 'deal' that was concluded behind the
scenes between Tarmac EH NYCC and inter alia, the CBA, that led to
the planning permission in the first place. It is quite clear that
that there is a window of opportunity to object again, and lets hope
that we can put up a rather better show than last time!
On 7 Mar 2008, at 12:50, George Chaplin wrote:
> Well word has it NYCC would have liked this to have slipped under
> the radar
> so that the application can be passed without further stress.
> However, I'm beginning to wonder if the material circumstances
> regarding the
> application have not changed:
> (Bearing in mind, there's very little information available to me)
> You will recall that the original planning application was rejected
> nationally important archaeology was found in the south west corner
> of the
> proposed quarry site. At that time TimeWatch raised additional
> concerns that
> the 2% of the land area surveyed was innadequate to properly
> understand the
> nature of the archaeology at Ladybridge.
> Tarmac then chose to perform an additional evaluation, critically,
> decided that what had been found was the last of the Neolithic
> on the site as (they claimed) the rest of the site would have been
> water during that period. They concentrated the additional
> archaeology on
> finding the edge of the archaeological remains so far discovered.
> this second evaluation, Tarmac, EH and NYCC all agreed that no further
> archaeology would be found to the north east of the proposed
> boundary, and
> after excluding the south west corner of Ladybridge, with no serious
> objections from EH etc, and little mention of the petition or past
> objections as being relevent, the application was granted.
> However, during the initial archaeology on Ladybridge following the
> of planning permission, I beleive the areas that would have been
> under water seem to have turned up yet more Neolithic settlement pits!
> Therefore it is clear that the assumptions proposed by Tarmac's
> archaeologists and accepted by EH and NYCC were wrong, and Tarmac have
> proved this.
> Given that it was on archaeological grounds that the original
> was refused, surely this is a most significant change to the
> of the application, one that should warrant the submission of a
> Environmental Impact Assessment surely?
> But then, as we all know, only a significant number of informed
> will have any impact on this process; injustice, undermining rules
> etc. is
> allowed so long as no-one notices and I bet there's a lot of tight
> about this one.
> It is such a shame no high profile person is willing to stand up for
> Britain's heritage. At this stage in the game, the publicity could
> make all
> the difference.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: British archaeology discussion list
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Wood
> Sent: 07 March 2008 11:39
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Temporary respite for Thornborough Henges
> I couldn't have put it better, well not much more!
> Great stuff!
> Mark Horton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well done the friends of Thornborough! Rather more effective than
> some of our better known archaeological organisations.
> On 6 Mar 2008, at 14:50, George Chaplin wrote:
>> Temporary respite for Thornborough Henges as planning permission is
>> From todays Northern Echo
>> PLANS for a controversial quarry extension near an ancient monument
>> site have been thrown into disarray following a legal challenge.
>> Tarmac Northern won planning permission in January last year from
>> North Yorkshire County Council to extract 1.1 million tonnes of sand
>> and gravel over eight years from land at Ladybridge Farm, between
>> Bedale and Ripon, half a mile from the nearest of three Bronze Age
>> earthwork henges on Thornborough Moor.
>> Tarmac said the unanimous decision would ensure the future of 15
>> full-time quarry workers and 40 hauliers at the neighbouring
>> Nosterfield quarry, where reserves are almost exhausted.
>> The henges, described as the Stonehenge of the North, have legal
>> protection as a scheduled ancient monument, but worried campaigners
>> who organised a 10,000-name petition said that the formal decision
>> notice was not issued until October following completion of a
>> agreement with Tarmac covering conditions attached to the permission.
>> their surroundings, including Ladybridge, must be protected from the
>> effects of further quarrying.
>> A spokeswoman for pressure group Friends of Thornborough said it
>> challenged the decision in the name of one of its members. However,
>> council lawyers have now confirmed it should be quashed following a
>> legal challenge on eight grounds concerning the handling of the
>> planning application. The issue is expected to be reconsidered by the
>> committee at Masham Town Hall, on April 22. She said: "A number of
>> faults were identified in the way the county council made their
>> decision. They agree they have got it wrong on three counts and have
>> agreed to the quashing of the decision through the judicial review
>> procedure. "There are still five grounds outstanding which remain to
>> be challenged and, on that score, they should be extremely careful
>> when they take their decision at the meeting due to take place on
>> April 22."
>> Gordon Gresty, the council's director of business and environmental
>> services, said: "This development has had a contentious history and
>> the legal challenge needs to be seen against the background of the
>> wide range of issues the committee took into account when it made its
>> "Those issues were properly and comprehensively considered.""Those i
>> in order to avoid further legal proceedings, we have agreed to the
>> quashing of the present planning approval and it would be our
>> intention to take the issue back to the committee in the future."
>> Some preliminary work has been done at Ladybridge, but mineral
>> extraction has not started.
>> A Tarmac spokesman said: "We understand that following legal
>> submissions, the planning consent is no longer in effect."We hope
>> a corrected report will be placed before the committee at the
>> opportunity. Meanwhile, we have stopped work at the Ladybridge site."
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