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Re: Preparing for the PhD viva - request for suggestions

From:

Abby Day <[log in to unmask]>

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Sociology of Religion post grad list <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:01:30 +0000

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Hi everyone

This has been an incredibly interesting and useful
exchange - the combined knowledge and wisdom is
potentially quite useful to other people. 

Can I suggest someone - Sharon? Sarah? - creates a
document copying/summarising all these points, and
have it posted on the main Socrel website? Maybe the
main BSA website or through the BSA postgrad
convenors? 

Abby 


--- "Christina.Welch"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi there, 
> Just to add to this I would also suggest that a
> focus on methodology and potentially 'fuzzy'
> terminology is useful - terms like postmodernism etc
> can be quite wooly and the examiners may wish to
> clarify their useage with you to be sure you are
> aware of debates surrounding such terms.
> Good luck
> Tina
> Dr. Christina Welch 
> Theology & Religious Studies 
> University of Winchester 
> Winchester 
> SO22 4NR 
> Tel: 01962 827521 
> E-mail: [log in to unmask] 
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Sociology of Religion post grad list
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sian
> Hawthorne
> 	Sent: 09 March 2008 20:34
> 	To: [log in to unmask]
> 	Subject: Re: Preparing for the PhD viva - request
> for suggestions
> 	
> 	
> 	Hi Sharon,
> 	 
> 	Congratulations on finishing your thesis!
> 	 
> 	I found the following helpful when preparing for my
> viva:
> 	 
> 	1) write out chapter summaries of each chapter so
> that you're clear on what each chapter achieves,
> what its central arguments are, etc.
> 	2) write out what you think the main contributions
> of your thesis are
> 	3) write out what the key themes are and and how
> they relate to each other
> 	4) produce a list of typos etc. so that you can
> present them to the examiners if appropriate (this
> can help to avoid being given corrections).
> 	 
> 	Bear in mind that it is unlikely that your
> examiners will have read every single thing you've
> written in your thesis and will therefore more
> likely confine discussion to the broad themes, and
> the broad implications of your thesis--you can
> cleverly guide them to this by making sure that your
> thesis is well signposted with good clear
> introductions and conclusions to each chapter.
> 	 
> 	In my experience, viva questions tend to proceed
> fairly organically, although the examiners will
> arrive with a set of questions/issues they want to
> explore in more detail with you. They will probably
> start out by asking you what your thesis is about.
> Don't let this throw you--it doesn't mean they
> haven't read it but rather that they are required to
> ascertain whether or not you wrote it. During the
> viva it's helpful to remember that it's OK to
> disagree with your examiners' reading of your work
> and their own position vis-à-vis what you propose.
> You just need to know where to draw the line and to
> concede the point and that's the tricky bit. I think
> it's important to remember that what examiners are
> really trying to assess is your competence in the
> wider field in which you're situated and so you
> should try and link what you've done to some of the
> big debates in your field. Be clear about what you
> bring to the table and what it contributes to other
> work in a similar area. Don't worry if some of the
> questions seem a little aggressive or unsympathetic.
> You are not being personally attacked and so you
> should try to relish the chance to defend what
> you've worked so hard on for so long. A viva is the
> first (and probably the last) chance you'll have the
> undivided attention of two people interested in your
> work so enjoy it!
> 	 
> 	Finally, make sure after your viva that you go out
> and let your hair down with some friends. It's a
> chance to celebrate your success but also to thank
> your friends for putting up with you for the last
> however long!
> 	 
> 	Wishing you lots of success!
> 	 
> 	Sian
> 	 
> 	Dr Sian Hawthorne
> 	Director of Studies, MA Gender Studies and
> Religion; MA Study of Religions
> 	MA Programmes Convenor
> 	Department of the Study of Religions
> 	SOAS, University of London
> 	Thornhaugh Street, Russell Square
> 	London WC1H 0XG
> 	 
> 	Tel: 020 7898 4215
> 	www.soas.ac.uk
> 
> 	From: Helen Meads
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  
> 	Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:41 PM
> 	To: [log in to unmask] 
> 	Subject: Re: Preparing for the PhD viva - request
> for suggestions
> 
> 
> 	Hi, Sharon,
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	I recently went on a course at my Uni (Birmingham)
> called "Preparing for your viva" and one of the
> things I recall from that is that we were advised to
> be aware of the foundation knowledge in our subject
> area and particularly of any recent developments
> since the thesis was submitted.  
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Also, think of the sorts of skills you used in any
> presentations you have done (especially questions
> after any papers you have given) - the experience is
> as similar as you can get.  You'll have all the
> skills.  
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Here are a few links from which we were given
> extracts (I think you'll need to search 'viva'
> within the sites):
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	www.grad.ac.uk <http://www.grad.ac.uk/> 
> 
> 	Joseph Levine's www.learnerassociates.net
> <http://www.learnerassociates.net/>   (and there are
> other websites where students report their
> experiences)
> 
> 	There's also something on the University of New
> South Wales website (no link, but we had an extract
> in the handout)
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	We also saw a viva on dvd, produced by a university
> in the East Midlands (Nottingham, Loughborough?) - I
> don't think it's the same one Adrian recommends,
> though.  That focused partly on how the examiners
> prepare - make sure you know all about them was
> another piece of advice.  
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Also, make sure you understand your Uni's
> regulations about procedures for corrections (minor
> or major).  Get fellow students to ask you the
> questions you dread, have a mock viva with your
> supervisor. Remember that this is one exam where
> you'll know more about the subject than your
> examiners.  Use examples and evidence in your
> discussion with the examiners and don't rush your
> answers.
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Abby said re-read your thesis, but we were also
> advised to prepare a one-page summary for each
> chapter and to prepare example answers and take your
> notes in with you. Also, use post-it notes to flag
> significant pages in your thesis (and make sure you
> take it in with you!).
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Other books recommended (apart from the Rowena
> Murray) were (all OU Press): 
> 
> 	TheResearch Student's Guide to Success, Pat Cryer
> 
> 	The Unwritten Rules of PhD Success, Gordon Rugg,
> Marian Petire
> 
> 	How to Get a PhD, Estelle M Phillips, Derek S Pugh
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Does your Uni run a similar course?  If so, do get
> on it.
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Hope this helps!  Good luck!
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Helen 
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Sociology of Religion post grad list
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Sharon Smith
> 	Sent: 08 March 2008 14:13
> 	To: [log in to unmask]
> 	Subject: [SOCREL-PG] Preparing for the PhD viva -
> request for suggestions
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Dear fellow list members,
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	I am due to have my PhD viva in about eight weeks
> time and would be most
> 
> 	grateful for suggestions as to what I should look
> out for as I prepare for
> 
> 	it.
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	With thanks in advance and best wishes,
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	-- 
> 
> 	Sharon Smith
> 
> 	 
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Dr Abby Day 
ESRC Postdoctoral Fellow: "Believing in Belonging: An Exploration of Religious Belief and Identity" 
Department of Anthropology, 
Arts D 422
University of Sussex 
Brighton, BN1 9RH, United Kingdom
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