Thankyou, Andrew, and everyone, for the quick info... This is precisely
what I needed.
Can someone confirm absolutely that the SP Scotland have or have not been
microfilmed?
Anne, as for why French... that's a great question. Quin's writing on
Spenser has never been unearthed, so this possible allusion is interesting
at the very least. The DNB has him writing other panegyric to James in
French, not that out of fashion in the Scots court, I should imagine. The
DNB has him (incorrectly) answering Book 4 of The Faerie Queene (instead of
Book 5).
My only reference is Strathmann, easily downloadable through Jstor:
Ernest A. Strathmann, [untitled review], Modern Language Notes 51:1 (1936):
55-56, 56.
Strathmann also wrote on Patrick Gordon, a "scotch Spenserian": "A Scotch
Spenserian: Patrick Gordon, Huntington Library Quarterly 1 (1938) 427-37
many thanks,
Bruce
> [Original Message]
> From: anne prescott <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 3/29/2008 12:42:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Query Regarding the Calandar of State Papers
>
> Yes, Gale Research had a workshop on it at the last SCSC, which I
> missed. I can get anyone the name and e-mail of the guy to contact. I
> can't remember if the materials are yet available or if this was just
> a preliminary pr campaign. Of course you'd still have to have access
> to a rich university that can afford to subscribe. For the Calendar
> of State Papers (not that the 1590s foreign series ever did get fully
> calendared, but that's another story), there's also MEMSO (Medieval
> and Early Modern Sources Online), of course, but again of course,
> largely for the richer libraries. Anne P.
> Why would the poem in question be in French? I ask because I'm
> just finishing up (well, trying to) an essay on Spenser and France,
> so I'm curious. Anne P.
>
> On Mar 29, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Peter C. Herman wrote:
>
> > Two quick points to add to Andrew's as always acute and generous
> > post: first, I've been told that the state papers for Scotland have
> > not been microfilmed, and so one must make a special trip to Kew to
> > view them; two, the microfilms of the English state papers are
> > available at the Huntington Library, and I would guess the Folger
> > as well. Also, didn't Gale Research announce that they were
> > unleashing a database of the state papers? That would be another
> > way of viewing the English state papers.
> >
> > Peter C. herman
> >
> > At 09:12 AM 3/29/2008, you wrote:
> >> Dear Bruce,
> >>
> >> Yes. This document is held at the National Archives in Kew, and
> >> you can consult it there (if necessary) by making serious looks at
> >> the reference archivist on duty; or you can use the microfilms on
> >> hand there, which do not require serious looks. If you're lucky,
> >> you'll be able to find a copy of the microfilm in a collection
> >> closer to you.
> >>
> >> The document you are looking for is from the State Papers,
> >> Scotland, and has the reference SP (i.e. State Papers) 52/57/79,
> >> where 52 is the collection (i.e. Scotland), 57 is the volume
> >> number, and 79 is the item number. If you want to visualize this,
> >> the manuscripts have all been bound into large green guardbooks,
> >> and the guardbooks assigned numbers. You want the 57th one in the
> >> Scotland series. The document you are seeking will be the 79th
> >> manuscript item (not the 79th folio, almost certainly; it looks
> >> here like they are claiming it is the 658th page, which seems
> >> unlikely but not impossible.) in the guardbook.
> >>
> >> The other reference included here refers to the Calendar itself,
> >> which is the annotated catalogue of the collection. If you can
> >> find a research library that has the calendars for the State
> >> Papers, Scotland, you will find that in the second volume, on
> >> pages 699 and 701 (both?), you will find a description of the item
> >> you are seeking. It may be that the item has been fully
> >> transcribed in the relevant volume of the calendar; for
> >> interesting documents, the editors sometimes did this (it was part
> >> of their brief from the Master of the Rolls, often reprinted in
> >> the front of the Calendar volumes).
> >>
> >> If you can't get to a copy of the calendar, and you can't get to
> >> Kew, and you can't get to a microfilm, let me know, and I will
> >> happily run off at least a photocopy for you, if possible.
> >>
> >> If I am completely misunderstanding your question, my apologies
> >> for going on at such length.
> >>
> >> andrew
> >>
> >> Andrew Zurcher
> >> Queens' College
> >> Cambridge CB3 9ET
> >> United Kingdom
> >>
> >> hast hast post hast for lyfe
> >>
> >>> Can anyone help me make sense of a citation from the Calendar of
> >>> State Papers:
> >>>
> >>> (SP 52/57, item 79, p. 658; CSP, Scotland, II, 699, 701)
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