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Re: Blackboards new plagiarism tool

From:

Derek J Ord <[log in to unmask]>

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Plagiarism <[log in to unmask]>, Derek J Ord <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:28:55 -0000

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That is very common.  Mathematicians do like to use blackboards.

There are good reasons, but some of the excuses don't really stand up to
scrutiny.




Derek.

_______________________________________
Derek Ord
Head of Student Administrative Services
University of Hull
(01482) 465980
-----Original Message-----
From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of George
MacDonald Ross
Sent: 08 February 2008 14:56
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Blackboards new plagiarism tool

When our main lecture theatre block at Leeds was upgraded with lots of
electronic equipment, one room was left with a blackboard and chalk
because the mathematicians said they couldn't do maths in any other way.


I'm surprised they weren't given a sandpit for doing geometry in.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike
Reddy
Sent: 08 February 2008 11:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Blackboards new plagiarism tool

You know, when I read the subject line of this thread I got all excited!
Use blackboards...

Then the students are just copying already. Talk -> Chalk -> Write ->
Walk... 

...and maybe... 

-> Think... 

...(later)

Just like when I was a student; ah the nostalgia. No notes on-line. No
multimedia content. Then I realised it was "Blackboard", the VLE that
was being referred to. :-(

So, forgive me for the flashback, but on Tuesday I was talking to some
of my second year students, and we mentioned the Overhead Projector -
although I prefer the original term "omniepidiascope" that  was my first
given label to describe it - and they were quite disparaging about their
previous university still using those old things. These students
transferred courses from another institution after their first year, but
not I believe for this reason alone. It made me stop and ponder about
all our projectors and "intelligent" white boards - never did understand
how white could be intelligent, with apologies to the "intelligent
shades of the colour blue" created by Douglas Adams, in his
"Hitch-hiker" series. Some of the lecturers have tablet PCs, which are
very cool by the way. So, it is all a long way from chalk and talk.

Now, how is this relevant to plagiarism? Not sure I know, sorry. But
isn't it interesting that communication of knowledge via the medium of
chalk was very low-level. Thought and debate was rare in a traditional
lecture, which was quite asynchronous, with hands aching from rapid
scribbling and eyes trained to speed read. Do we not communicate more
opinion and emotion now than ever before? Is the reliance on expecting
students to self-serve the factual content really fair, and then to make
sure they do this by making it a summative assessment; I cannot be alone
in seeing students suffering from "assignmentitis" where they will only
do it if it will contribute to their grade. I don't miss the demise of
the blackboard. I enjoy the creativity of presenting information in a
more experiential way. I guess the trick might be to involve the
students in that creation. Maybe, their experiences of mashups on
Youtube, Facebook, etc, will mean that they have a few things to teach
us.

Here is a convincer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCJ46vyR9o

See what your response to this is, and apologies if you have seen it
before. 

Mike

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