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Subject:

Re: Note-taking support costs

From:

Ian Webb <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

Date:

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:59:16 +0000

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Ian


Quoting Gareth Evans <[log in to unmask]>:

> I've not come across Digiscribbler before and Google isn't being too helpful
> for once, can anyone point me in the direction of a link?
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sally Brindley
> Sent: 19 February 2008 13:30
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Note-taking support costs
> 
> 
> yes absolutely, but it can get difficult as the digiscribble is the student's
> and it could be argued that the note taker should be provided with equipment
> by the Institute not by the student....from their DSA.
>  
> Sally
> 
> 	----- Original Message ----- 
> 	From: Ian Webb <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  
> 	To: [log in to unmask] 
> 	Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:20 AM
> 	Subject: Re: Note-taking support costs
> 
> 	Or you could use an electronic device such as the Digiscribble. 
Handwritten
> notes, 
> 	maps, sketches and signatures can all be captured remotely using a 
normal
> ink 
> 	filled pen! Save them to the PC and then convert them to typed text and 
copy
> or 
> 	import into Office applications like Word and Outlook. At £51 a cheap
> alternative 
> 	to all that extra time and the problems of finding a typist.
> 	
> 	Ian
> 	
> 	Quoting Sally Brindley <[log in to unmask]>:
> 	
> 	> Hello Peter
> 	> 
> 	> I agree  - I think one extra hour per hour of notetaking is too much.
> Surely
> 	> the Institute should be using people who can type notes during 
lectures,
> but
> 	> I do think they need a little bit more time to check for clarity and
> 	> reorganise the notes on screen to ensure that they make sense, 
before
> 	> emailing them to the student. I have a friend who does this job, and 
who
> 	> often works in her own time to ensure that the notes are presented in 
a
> way
> 	> that the student will find clear. 
> 	> The student who needs the notes might have such a severe difficulty 
with
> 	> reading (for whatever reason) that they need the notes read
> electronically
> 	> anyway, so should not have to use handwritten notes.
> 	> If a student had 15 hrs per week ( seems a lot!) in lectures I would
> probably
> 	> add about 25% time for the above.
> 	> I do not think that handwritten notes are acceptable - if a student
> finds
> 	> reading difficult per se how much harder to have to cope with
> handwriting
> 	> idiosyncrasies? 
> 	> Sometimes if the student has a diagnosis of AS I might recommend
> additional
> 	> time after lectures for discussion of the content, and in this case it 
can
> be
> 	> more useful to have a postgrad student taking notes rather than a
> qualified
> 	> notetaker.
> 	> If the notetaker is qualified surely he/she should be a touch-typist.
> Local
> 	> rates where I work (SE Eng) are between £18.50 - £21 per hour to the
> 	> Institute  - surely enough to expect a professional service?
> 	> 
> 	> Sally Brindey
> 	> Needs Assessor 
> 	>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> 	>   From: Peter Hill 
> 	>   To: [log in to unmask] 
> 	>   Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:45 PM
> 	>   Subject: Note-taking support costs
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>   Hi
> 	> 
> 	>   (apologies for cross posting)
> 	> 
> 	>   As a Needs Assessor, I sometimes recommend provision of a note-
taker for
> 
> 	>   students with dyslexia.  Institutional charges vary but, for the most 
> 	>   part, they are about £16 per hour.  I've recently been asked on a 
couple
> 
> 	>   of occasions to increase the recommendation to allow extra time for 
> 	>   word-processing the notes.  I've been informed, too, that some 
> 	>   organisations recommend an hour for typing up for every hour of
> 	> note-taking.
> 	> 
> 	>   In the case of a student attending 15 hours of lectures per week, this
> 
> 	>   could cost £480.00 per week (£16 x 30) or £14,400 per year (for a 
30 
> 	>   week course).  I've always operated on the assumption that the 
hourly 
> 	>   rate includes typing up and I'm uneasy about this development - not 
> 	>   least because the potential costs are well in excess of the normal 
> 	>   maximum for Non Medical Helpers Allowance.
> 	> 
> 	>   Has anyone else encountered this.
> 	> 
> 	>   Regards
> 	> 
> 	>   Peter
> 	> 
> 	>   -- 
> 	> 
> 	>   Peter J Hill
> 	> 
> 	>   Tel: 01905 391 547
> 	>   Mobile: 07751 792711
> 	> 
> 	>   Email: [log in to unmask]
> 	> 
> 	> 
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> 	> 18:49
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	
> 	
> 	-- 
> 	Ian Webb
> 	Disability Adviser/Assessor
> 	MNADP
> 	
> 	
> 	
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-- 
Ian Webb
Disability Adviser/Assessor
MNADP

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