Caroline & Felicia et al
(I know its a bit of a can of worms and raises a lot of emotions)
but my interest is to find _a form of words_ that is objective.
I think Caroline's post is closer to that -
we (as academics) can acknowledge and respect the way members of
any ingroup see themeselves as somehow choosen -
whilst at the same time looking at the bigger picture.
This surely is the territory of comparative religion -
the formation of a number of OTO and Thelemic lineages
from Crowley onwards seems to be a fact.
IMO its the way religions grow eg: within 100 years of the death of the
Buddha
there were already 100 Buddhist sects.
So Felicia - please don't leave the list - As a researcher in this area -
I am interested on your views on the eleventh degree -
Can you say more about Motta's trajectory and why, if he did, he
developed in the way he did.
Over the years I've always found the post Motta OTO leadership very
helpful -
and he seemed to have worked his way through all the Crowley material
and the current
leadship seem to have some common ground with the Typhonians - is that
your impression??
'Love and do what you will'
Mogg
> Hi Felicia,
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>>> As I stated to Ben: OTO is a legal entity. Others have produced no
>>> documentation to support their claims of lineage", "current" or
>>> "offshoot". This argument got old in the 1990s. If you wish to
>>> speak of well-researched studies, by all means.
> If you need to continue to discuss claims made by people who ceased
> making those claims long, long ago, count me out.<<
>
> Although I belong to the "legal entity" OTO, can we really say that
> other OTOs are not, or were not, also OTOs? I just wonder, after the
> death of a charismatic leader (Aleister Crowley), isn't it quite
> common for groups to splinter like that, for other charismatic types
> to claim lineage - whether on paper or not. How un-OTO does one of
> these groups have to be to be "not OTO"? I mean is the Typhonian OTO
> considered not OTO - at all? Obviously a lot of people think that
> non-Caliphate OTOs are OTO... Isn't it a bit like Wicca in its growth
> out from an original model?
>
> ~Caroline Tully.
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> http://www.myspace.com/carolinetully
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