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Re: Chartered acountant/ finance director appointed Chief Exec of Information Centre [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

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"R.Thomas" <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:41:54 -0000

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Management in Britain is notoriously weak.   Radstats members will have
noted that even with more professional clubs than every other country
England had to go abroad to get its new football manager!

I think it goes back to the 19th century class system,  The public
schools produced people with nothing but the confidence to assume
positions of authority.   Amazing that the tradition has extended.

Anyway The RSS does occasionally have serious meetings.   One such in
fortnight's time addressed by Luis Simpson - see next message.


Ray Thomas
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Subject: Re: Chartered acountant/ finance director appointed Chief Exec
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I thought the received wisdom is that all managers need to know is how
to manage.  Actual expertise is just for us grunts who have to do
everything and make everything.

This does not appear to have percolated into the unfortunately named
Scholar's consciousness, as he feels compelled to grasp at straws like,
' involving "the use of considerable quanitities of data"'.  Exactly the
sort of thing a new graduate or someone would put in a job application
where you really have no relevant experience or expertise.

In solidarity,
Harry






 

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I wonder what expertise in statistics means?   Is it really relevant to
handling information?  Professional statisticians don't seem to have any
training in handling information.  Tim Straughan the new head of the
Health
Information Centre worked as a dentist.   So he has some background in
health services, and should at least know how to bite!

Sir Michael Scholar, head of the new Statistics Board, does not claim
expertise in statistics.   Simon Briscoe interviews Scholar in the
current
issue of the RSS magazine Significance.  Scholar seems to have spent the
last six years sitting on committees.  He claims a previous career as
advising ministers involving "the use of considerable quanitities of
data".

The views he expresses seem difficult to distinguish from those of the
ONS
and display considerable faith in delegation.   "We will go straight to
Parliament .. we will be looking to Parliament to have good arrangments
for receiving information and for keeping the Board and the Government
up to the mark".

Maybe "expertise in statistics" is not relevant to these posts?



Ray Thomas
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      [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Macfarlane, Alison
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      Subject: Chartered acountant/ finance director appointed Chief
Exec
      of Information Centre

      The Information Centre has appointed its finance director as Chief
      Exec, rather than appointing someone with expertise in statistics.
 
http://www.knowledge.ic.nhs.uk/ebulletins/shared/detail_item.asp?item_ID
=304

      As you may remember, the first Chief Exec was Denise Lievesley,
who
      'left' rather precipitately last summer in circumstances which
were
      never made public.

      Alison
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