If anyone is wondering where to put his or her pictures for this
niceness, blogspot is an option if your situation limits your ability
to host pictures. You can set up your own blog and post pictures
there. The "thumbnails" generated by the interface will link to the
full sized pictures. The pictures will need to be converted to one of
the standard web types (gif, jpeg, and I think png is OK).
James
On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Frank von Delft wrote:
> Actually, it's not book keeping, it's simple courtesy -- and not
> only on a BB: an attachment is lazy, and a large attachment is
> downright rude.
> I am routinely stuck with a slow connection (travelling), and others
> are *permanently* stuck with one. So please be nice... ;)
>
> phx.
>
>
>
> Anastassis Perrakis wrote:
>> Dear all -
>>
>> Sorry to intervene on a 'book keeping' issue, but indeed over the
>> last few months an increasing number of people (Jerry is not the
>> first, so Jerry please do not take it personally) attach pictures
>> etc. I think in a bb standard practice dictates to only use text -
>> if illustrations are needed to explain the problem, you can put
>> them in eg a web site.
>>
>> Some text like that was in the 'code of conduct' off ccp4bb in the
>> past, but I could no longer find it.
>>
>> Thus apologies if I am wrong and policies have changed, but maybe
>> the ccp4 crowd could tell us what is the suggested policy.
>>
>> And, if you really want to send an image please do bother to make
>> it small. The initial posting had a 630k image, which it took me 1
>> min to make 20k and it still makes the point (attached so I can
>> also violate the rules i am suggesting - I love inconsistency).
>>
>> Thanks, Tassos
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2008, at 20:11, Jerry McCully wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear All:
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for the prompt reply on this topic of salt
>>> sensitive complex.
>>>
>>> Attached please find one ITC final figure done under 25mM
>>> Tris(pH8.0), 60mM NaCl.
>>>
>>> As mentioned before, the ionization of Tris will interfere
>>> with the ITC experiments.
>>>
>>> Therefore I am sure of my binding results.
>>>
>>> Can anyone give me some comments on this ITC experiment?
>>> Basically do these two proteins bind to each other? If so, how
>>> should I improve the ITC experiments to get a similar affinity
>>> shown by BIAcore(about 0.5uM)?
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Hi Jerry,
>>> Tris can cause problems, you are better off using
>>> something like
>>> HEPES, and HEPES should be ok at pH 8. (Buffers with an
>>> ethane-sulphonic acid group tend to be the best - those ending in
>>> 'ES', so MES, TES and HEPES)
>>> FYI, the error on your K is bigger than the actual
>>> measurement -
>>> 1.49x10^5 ± 1.5x10^5.
>>> Signal to noise to is probably your enemy, which is making the
>>> curve
>>> fitting difficult. Changing buffer may help this - there may be
>>> some
>>> non-specific component to what you're seeing - increasing salt
>>> a bit
>>> or dropping in something like 5% glycerol may help with this.
>>> Would you be able to post a jpeg/pdf of the curve?
>>> Regards,
>>> David
>>> On 25/01/2008, Jerry McCully wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dear All:
>>> >
>>> > Firstly I would like to thank many folks here for
>>> giving me great
>>> > ideas several days ago.
>>> >
>>> > The following are some updates for this question.
>>> >
>>> > I did ITC experiments again using 25mMTris(pH8), 60mM
>>> NaCl(low salt
>>> > condition).
>>> >
>>> > But things still turn out to be a little weird.
>>> >
>>> > I increased the concentration of both proteins(60uM in
>>> the cell and
>>> > 1200uM in the syringe). At the end of the ITC, I saw a little
>>> of
>>> > precipitation of both the proteins.
>>> >
>>> > Fortunately I can roughly fit the curve this time.
>>> However, the heat was
>>> > still low, around 1Kcal/mole of per injectant. I am not sure
>>> about the
>>> > fitting statistics.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > N 1.10 ±0.17
>>> >
>>> > K 1.49E5 ±1.5E5
>>> >
>>> > DH -893.5 ±213
>>> >
>>> > DS 20.7
>>> >
>>> > Was the enthalpy was offset by the ionization of Tris buffer?
>>> >
>>> > Can I use Hepes buffer around pH8 to do ITC?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Welcome any comments about the statistics and suggestions
>>> on how to
>>> > improve the ITC experiments.have a nice weekend.
>>> >
>>> > Jerry
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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James Stroud
UCLA-DOE Institute for Genomics and Proteomics
Box 951570
Los Angeles, CA 90095
http://www.jamesstroud.com
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