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Re: Chartered acountant/ finance director appointed Chief Exec of Information Centre [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

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Harry Feldman <[log in to unmask]>

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I thought the received wisdom is that all managers need to know is how to
manage.  Actual expertise is just for us grunts who have to do everything
and make everything.

This does not appear to have percolated into the unfortunately named
Scholar's consciousness, as he feels compelled to grasp at straws like, '
involving "the use of considerable quanitities of data"'.  Exactly the sort
of thing a new graduate or someone would put in a job application where you
really have no relevant experience or expertise.

In solidarity,
Harry






                                                                                                                          
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I wonder what expertise in statistics means?   Is it really relevant to
handling information?  Professional statisticians don't seem to have any
training in handling information.  Tim Straughan the new head of the Health
Information Centre worked as a dentist.   So he has some background in
health services, and should at least know how to bite!

Sir Michael Scholar, head of the new Statistics Board, does not claim
expertise in statistics.   Simon Briscoe interviews Scholar in the current
issue of the RSS magazine Significance.  Scholar seems to have spent the
last six years sitting on committees.  He claims a previous career as
advising ministers involving "the use of considerable quanitities of data".

The views he expresses seem difficult to distinguish from those of the ONS
and display considerable faith in delegation.   "We will go straight to
Parliament .. we will be looking to Parliament to have good arrangments for
receiving information and for keeping the Board and the Government up to
the mark".

Maybe "expertise in statistics" is not relevant to these posts?



Ray Thomas
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      Subject: Chartered acountant/ finance director appointed Chief Exec
      of Information Centre

      The Information Centre has appointed its finance director as Chief
      Exec, rather than appointing someone with expertise in statistics.
      http://www.knowledge.ic.nhs.uk/ebulletins/shared/detail_item.asp?item_ID=304

      As you may remember, the first Chief Exec was Denise Lievesley, who
      'left' rather precipitately last summer in circumstances which were
      never made public.

      Alison
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