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Christopher,
hard to summarize what "topography" means in Bruun's (thanks for
correction) book. There is a Biblical topography of which B is
conscious, and which he uses, but there is also a spiritual/
tropological, etc. journey through the topography of B's Jerusalem,
Paradise, etc etc. Much lies in the exegetical turns taken by B in
his sermons, etc. -- and the "spiritual' interpretation topographic
details. Jerusalem is a place, but a monastery, a spiritual/celestial
reality, etc etc. Also the concept of the "journey"---real/life
journey/spiritual journey, etc.
BTW, can you give me references to sources for the Abbey of St. Mary
of Josaphat (France) and the Jerusalem church. Does the church near
Jerusalem appear on the surviving fragments of the Madaba map or is
the church too late for that? (Madaba is a very interesting aspect of
the early "Christianizing" of the "Holy Land" since the map is full of
markers, shrines, etc. transforming the topography into a Christian
(not Jewish) topography. Mapping, or naming/delineating, can
transform the viewed object (in this case, landscape). But that has
more to to with modern theories of mapping, etc. (which are of
interest, of course, to those of us who ponder medieval maps--extant
or not extant [H. of S.V.'s drawing, for instance])
enough for now.
best
gz
Grover A. Zinn
William H. Danforth Professor of Religion (emeritus)
former Associate Dean, College of Arts and Sciences
Oberlin College
Oberlin, OH 44074
440-775-8866 (department)
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On Jan 16, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Christopher Crockett wrote:
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> From: "Grover Zinn (imap)" <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> Christopher,
>>
>> Thanks for the references.
>
>
> shuck, t'wernt nothing.
>
> i'm just getting the Hang of doing searches on JSTOR.
>
> hellofa resouce.
>
> took me about 5 minutes to come up with those.
>
>> George, Christopher, and All,
>>
>> I've just started to read the following, which has much on
>> Bernard's idea of
> Clairvaux as Jerusalem and the connection of the monastery (esp. C.)
> to the
> heavenly Jerusalem:
>
>> Mette B. Brunn, _Parables: Bernard of Clairvaux's Mapping of
>> Spiritual
> Topography_ Brill's Studies in Intellectual History, vol 148.
> Leiden/
> Boston: Brill, 2007.
>
> looks good.
>
> I.U. doesn't believe in actual books anymore, so we don't have it.
>
> oh, you've misspelled the author's name, G.Z.
>
> it's *Bruun*
>
> an easy mistake to make, i suppose.
>
> i'll take a look, soon as i've mailed this.
>
>> A very interesting book and a fascinating use of ideas of mapping and
> topography to elucidate Bernard's thought and its "material" reality.
>
> "topography," as in the matrix of a Sacred (Holy Land) Topography
> which can be
> superimposed on any given European typography?
>
> e.g., the abbey of St. Mary of Josaphat, about a mile down the Eure
> valley
> from Chartres, founded by Ivo's sucessor as bishop of Chartres,
> apparently as
> a "topographical replication" (or whatever) of the abbey of St. Mary
> of
> Jehosaphat, below Jerusalem.
>
> c
>
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