if Joe Green isn't reinstated into PoetryEtc, I'm considering leaving
the list. not intended as dramatic, just a decision of principle.

in addition to the 'b/c - List' breach that Rupert brings up, I
consider it a shame bordering on idiocy to remove as unique &
productive a member as JG from a list gasping, in my opinion, for some
texture & moisture just because his texture was too rough for SOME,
not ALL or even a majority, list members' tastes and just because his
moisture was too moist for the underarms & foreheads of same SOME, not
ALL or even a majority of, list members.

in my opinion PoetryEtc would better be served by adapting to
unpredictable, diverse & extremely creative behaviour like Joe Green's
-- rather than suppressing it in favour of academic discourse. you
asked, "Why don't members read and share what is interesting and
published online, for example?" well, Joe rather wrote his own. on my
own behalf I can say that Joe Green has made me more open and aware of
narration & rhythm & (sure, sometimes pompous but mostly impeccable)
comedy in poetry. I would consider it an honour to be 'ATTACKED' by
him.

this needs to be rethought very carefully, mgrs.

KS

On 18/12/2007, Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Joe Green has been removed from the POETRYETC list. Notification has been
> sent.
>
> I do not think I have to justify the present decision. As I said in my
> previous mail, several members b/c-ed asking for the removal of Joe Green.
> Since the question was held b/c I will not mention the names of the said
> contributors.
>
> As I also said, the decision is not mine because I do not like to have the
> power of death or of life on people, especially if they are adults.
>
> As the co-manager of this list, I highly praise contributions based on
> poetry, reviews, links related to poetry and discussions on poetry. It is
> true that this is Poetryetc which means there is an ETC, but it is also true
> that the root, the leading word is POETRY.
>
> On the other hand, and I am suggesting, could not this ETC be arts, Arts in
> general, movies, videos, music, visual art, digital art, any kind of Art.
> Are there any other topics the members would like to discuss in a
> constructive way? As poets I think that we want to improve, why not make of
> this space an important reference for all?
>
> I had to update my resume this morning and realized _once again_ the
> enormous amount of poetry published out there. Why don't members read and
> share what is interesting and published online, for example? I bumped into
> Jacket, Black Box, The Argotist Online, Big Bridge, University sites,
> Publications, there is so much that I feel dizzy.
>
> I hope I will have an interesting feedback and I also remind everyone that
> as a rule once a member is not on the list please avoid any comments.
>
> With my best wishes, serving Poetryetc,
>
> Anny Ballardini
> co-manager
>