> Some of the expressions of frustration I have heard from security people are also
> about the EGEE management who authorised this.
they are not alone.
cheers
alessandra
Maybe someone - perhaps the
> GDB? - needs to send a message on behalf of all (frustrated) ROCs?
>
> One question I have in this connection is whether an estimate of the required
> CPU and storage resources was made and whether snr mgmt had seen that? Did
> they have any idea how much CPU time an RSA768 factorisation would require?
>
> I have also recommended to the storage group that sites check which SEs have
> heinzian data in them, block access, but do not delete data. Not much feedback
> yet though.
>
> Apart from agreeing expressions of displeasure, personally I think we should
> learn the lessons and move on. Incidents happen, and this one shows we are not
> really sufficiently well prepared for a more serious one.
>
> Cheers
> --jens
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes on behalf of Coles, J (Jeremy)
> Sent: Thu 08/11/2007 01:19
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Heinz still submitting
>
> Dear All
>
> There are several areas being followed up in response to the recent
> biomed events. There is now a confirmation that the jobs being
> resubmitted by rb01.egee-see.org have been killed, so you should not see
> any more activity.
>
> I did not receive any definitive evidence from any UKI site that Heinz
> was still intentionally submitting. He indicated that he tried to cancel
> all jobs using edg-job-cancel --all but apparently this command does not
> function correctly! As has been indicated previously each site needs to
> take whatever action it sees as appropriate and this may include
> blocking access to the data stored on the site SE. However, at this
> stage please *do not* delete Heinz's output data.
>
> I would also appreciate if we could work together in expressing the
> frustration/annoyance felt in UKI in this case and not resort to
> individual messages to Heinz. While it is clear the work was not
> appropriate to biomed, Heinz did seek EGEE approval to carry out the
> work and he did not try to hide it (he used clear job naming to be
> transparent in what he was doing). Furthermore, biomed as a VO may not
> now be aware of discussions to use the VO because the representative who
> did know moved on. Given these (and other) additional factors, while
> Heinz is at fault for not working within the VO AUP, there are wider
> things to consider in our overall response. The jos have stopped and the
> matter has been sufficiently escalated, so I at least think we should
> move on. Since the situation was not entirely Heinz's fault I would be
> inclined to give him the output of completed jobs so that the CPU time
> used was not a complete waste.
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes [mailto:TB-
>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ma, M (Mingchao)
>> Sent: 07 November 2007 15:34
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Heinz still submitting
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just received direct confirmation from Heinz. Please refer to the
> copied
>> email below:
>>
>>> Hi Mingcaho,
>>>
>>> Initially, I just stopped job submission but instructed the
>>> Task Server not to assign any further tasks to jobs. A job
>>> picks up a new assignment typically after about 90 mins. If
>>> no assignment is found, the job terminates gracefully.
>>>
>>> I tried to cancel potentially existing with edg-job-cancel
>>> --all but this gives timeout connection errors with the RB
>>> rb01.egee-see.org. Can somebody please help clear the jobs
>>> from the RB in case there are still some around?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Heinz
>>>
>> So the user can not cancel his job, therefore the RB still try to
> submit
>> the job to other sites. OSCT-DC and OSCT SEE ROC will follow it up and
>> contact the admins of rb01.egee-see.org (which belongs to HG-06-EKT
> site
>> at Greek). For now, it seems that the user does stop job submission
> once
>> he has been asked to do so.
>>
>> Mingchao
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Robson
>>> Sent: 07 November 2007 14:58
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Heinz still submitting
>>>
>>> One of Heinz's gnfs-lasieve jobs started 45 minutes ago
>>> (14:13) on EFDA-JET.
>>> The connection was from rb01.egee-see.org We are now banning
>>> this user.
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Robson
>>>
>>> CODAS, Machine Operations, UKAEA Culham Division Culham
>>> Science Centre, Abingdon, OXON, OX14 3DB, UK
>>> Voice: +44(0)1235-46-4569, Fax: 4404
>>> Work email: [log in to unmask]
>>> Home email: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>
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