Ah well as it's Friday .......:-)
"Dead Parrot" springs to mind but you can all make up your own dp joke about that - a person, an organisation or the law itself??
E
>>> Lee Gardiner <[log in to unmask]> 23/11/2007 07:48 >>>
To follow Antoinette's lead and to also paraphrase Monty P punishment under DP is akin to that dished out by Brian's mother... 'he's not the Messiah he's a very naughty boy...'
TGIF
Lee
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Sent: Thu 22 November 2007 17:13
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Commissioners - New Powers
Isn't the six million dollar question here whether the power to "spot check" HMRC would have prevented this latest breach? I say probably not. What Mr Thomas really needs, in my humble opinion, is the ability to fine after the event at an appropriate level. Perhaps not at the same level as the Spanish ("no-one expects the Spanish Information Commissioner" is an often humorously mis-quoted Monty Python quip in our Madrid office) but certainly something more meaty than the threat of an Enforcement Notice (ooh I'm so scared - not)
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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Matthew Stephenson
Sent: 22 November 2007 16:55
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Commissioners - New Powers
Gerry,
The 10 Downing Street page says: "Information Commissioner Richard Thomas will be given the power to "spot check" departments and examine the quality of compliance."
"Will", not "has been". So it seems that its not yet sorted.
If more money and extra resources are needs as GC Weekly suggests, I'd suggest the HMRC gets fined. In April, the Spanish fined a TV company over €1,000,000 after hackers got hold of information relating to 7000 people. Extrapolating that to cover 25 million people would be £2½ Billion!
We, the taxpayer will end up paying in the end of course.
Cheers
Matt
Matthew Stephenson
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University of Salford
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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gerry Dane
Sent: 22 November 2007 15:11
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Subject: [data-protection] Commissioners - New Powers
Dear All,
Extract from GC Weekly:
"The Information Commissioner's Office has now been given the power to make data protection spot checks without having to gain the prior consent of organisations. But more money and extra resources are needed if it is to make the full use of these powers and enforce when necessary."
Have been in touch with the ICO and also checked their Press Releases - nothing.
Everyone seems to know about these powers - but unable to point to any recent documentation?
Anyone able to help out?
Gerry.
Newcastle University
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