Not so much trenches as discrete shallow holes. The rest exactly
right, the saying based, probably, on a convenient confusion of
expletive with deity, as in "oh god," which I guess would mean that
there are also no atheists in the bedroom (or the back seats of cars, etc.).
Mark
At 04:08 PM 8/17/2007, you wrote:
>I thought foxholes were to do with WWI and concealment in trench
>warfare? Under which conditions presumably many who had thought
>themselves atheists discovered they were, if only temporarily, not so.
>
>joanna
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:01 PM
>Subject: again Re: on the etc side
>
>
>>Or fox=corruption of French faux, hence, "there are no atheists in
>>false holes."
>>
>>At 12:25 PM 8/17/2007, you wrote:
>>>What are foxes atheists? -good for them
>>>P
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>>Behalf Of Roger Day
>>>Sent: 17 August 2007 13:25
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: on the etc side
>>>
>>>I thought the point of S&M was for the participants to gain some sort
>>>of pleasure (for me, some indeterminate value of pleasure) from the,
>>>uh, experience. It looks too much like torture, and seems to me the
>>>govt and the private kind seem to normalise each other. Or something
>>>like that. See also 'camwhores' in this respect somewhat.
>>>
>>>The superiority bit is new on me, although I'm a bit sheltered in
>>>these regards. Goths are insufferable, and seem to lie along the same
>>>axis.
>>>
>>>With regards to atheists and foxholes, I hate that phrase. I think
>>>there were and are a lot of atheists in foxholes.
>>>
>>>Roger
>>>
>>>On 8/17/07, Dominic Fox <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> > andrew burke wrote:
>>> > > An interesting insight into business a la The Sopranos ... by Tom
>>> > > Robbins in The Village Voice at
>>> > > http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0733,robbins,77515,2.html
>>> > >
>>> > > I think kinky sex is a near cousin to poetry. That's my excuse ...
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>http://chasemeladies.blogspot.com/2005/01/non-kinky-sex-is-waste-of-time.htm
>>>l
>>> >
>>> > Kinky sex nevertheless requires the existence of non-kinky sex in order
>>> > for its kinks to be discernible as such. What would be the
>>> point of > S&M,
>>> > if it didn't allow its practitioners to go around feeling superior to
>>> > people who only do "vanilla"?
>>> >
>>> > Dominic
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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