Hi,
in our birth center (Hamburg, Germany) we use the wooden pinards, like Margy
Hughes says, its warmer than the plastik or metal one. We have a small and a
larger one. I personally prefer the smaller one.
We usually use it during prenatal visits and when we hear the heartbeat
clearly we let the partner or whoever is with the woman listen to them.
The doptone we use sometimes in early pregnancy when we are not able to hear
the heartbeat with the pinard, and we use it for waterbirth since we have a
waterproof one.
Kind regards
Nys B. Eggert
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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: How do pinards look/why do parents use them?
To the ICM -researchmailing list fra Jette Aaroe Clausen (e-mail:
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Greeting everybody out there
I am currently finishing an article about midwifes work with pinards, CTG
and the doptone. And this has made me wonder a little about what a
stethoscope is, and what midwifes mean when they say they work with
Pinards.
I know English midwifes use the word Pinard for the stethoscope they use
during childbirth. In Denmark a stethoscope in called "a wooden tube"
(trærør) or wooden stethoscope (træ stetoskop). It is a app. 20 cm long
wodden tube. when I have visited English labourward, I have seen midwifes
use smaller stethoscopes and called them Pinard. In the literature I can
see that the stethoscope got its name from an English doctor Pinard. For a
reference see. http://fan.BM.comb/chi/reprint/91/3/F231
I found these pictures on the homemade from radical midwifes.
http://www.radioed.demon.Co.UK/Pindar's.html
And this make me think that the word Pindar now is used for all types of
stethoscopes used during labour whether they are of wood, plastic or metal.
Am I right in assuming that the most common used stethoscope in England is
of wood and it is short? Where are the stethoscopes of metal and plastic
used?
What kind of stethoscopes are used by midwifes in other countries? I once
visited a Mennonite midwife in Canada (Mennonite is closely related to the
Amish, but less radical, they do drive cars ect), she used a stethoscope
that was placed between the women's abdomen, and her forehead and two
listening probes where placed in her ears. I wonder if this was just her,
or is other midwifes out there using this kind of stethoscopes?
Sparked by the discussion about a list for historians, I wonder if there
are anybody out there who knows how short and small stethoscopes came into
being and why they became the chosen form? I was once told that Danish
midwifes used a long stethoscope for courtesy and for avoiding lice. But I
have never seen this in writing and don't remember who told me this many
years ago.
In Denmark parents to be, have started to buy Pinards and some also buy
doptones and use them at home. have you hear of this and what are your
experience with this. Why do parents do this? and do you experience and
problems whit this?
Looking forward to hear from you
All the best
Jette
Jette Aaroe Clausen
Jordemoderlærer / Midwifery Lecturer
MHH (Master in Health Humanities)
CVU Øresund
Jordemoderuddannelsen/ Faculty of Midwifery
Sigurdsgade 24
2200 København N
Telefon + 45 3531 0511/ + 45 3531 0500
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