Don't worry, it's good to have some fire here. You sound like I was when I first turned up on the board in 1999... (have a look in the archives!)
David.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: A forum for critical and radical geographers
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salvatore
>Engel-DiMauro
>Sent: 03 August 2007 15:27
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>
>you are right, i am reading too much into the vacancy
>description. it would be more constructive, however, to have
>explicit qualification as to the aims of the vacancy and how
>terrorism is defined, for example. my apologies for sounding
>offensive and for giving the impression of being suspicious of
> Jon. i am actually suspicious of the institution, not Jon
>(and having a job is not the point here, it is what one does
>with the job that can contribute to an egalitarian society,
>rather than jobs as ends in themselves). cheers,
>
>saed
>
>D F J Wood wrote:
>> I'd be careful of infering things that aren't there and
>calling them 'implicit'...
>>
>> Nowhere in the call does it offer a definition of terrorism
>in general that excludes the sort of terrorism you talk about.
>Nowhere in the call does in prescribe a set answer either, so
>asking about Jon's 'strategy' as if he must be ideologically
>suspect until proved otherwise is rather uncalled for.
>>
>> I presume you have made a thorough study of Jon's work and
>are able to offer a comprehensive reading of his political
>stance to support what you believe is implied?
>>
>> And I am sorry, but just because you happen to be vocal in
>expressing a particular view on a particular subject does not
>mean that everyone else who happens to be here is apolitical,
>unengaged and non-critical.
>>
>> BTW, do you have a job? ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Salvatore Engel-DiMauro [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> Sent: 03 August 2007 15:09
>>> To: D F J Wood
>>> Cc: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>
>>> right, and what is at stake here is the very material
>terrorism meted
>>> out to millions of people in public places, in cities, through the
>>> sort of terrorism that is conveniently not recognised as
>such if done
>>> through state institutions. so, implicitly, the vacancy seems to
>>> exclude this entirely, as it would contradict the mainstream,
>>> government view of what counts as terrorism and then also
>>> problematise the role of the UK government as a terrorist
>>> organisation in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. but Jon Coaffee should tell
>>> us what strategy he is aiming at, up front, in recruiting critical
>>> geographers.
>>> that for me would be reasonable, instead of presuming. what are the
>>> aims? if only to offer a job, then why in this forum at all?
>>>
>>> saed
>>>
>>> D F J Wood wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well to some extent this is entirely true - you only have
>to look at
>>>> all sorts of research on the influence of new technologies
>on urban
>>>> form (Graham and Marvin, 2001; Thrift and French, 2003; some
>>>>
>>> of my own
>>>
>>>> work too) to see that one can perfectly well imagine a society in
>>>> which the ability to socially construct space has been curtailed
>>>> through material means. The question is whether we want a
>>>>
>>> society in
>>>
>>>> which the fabric of cities becomes more important than social
>>>> construction. The call specifically mentions environments that are
>>>> "effective and acceptable." The question of acceptability is not
>>>> defined tightly here, so I can imagine multiple ethical,
>political,
>>>> social, cultural and other standards by which you might
>judge such a
>>>> thing. But to argue that form cannot (or indeed should not)
>>>>
>>> influence
>>>
>>>> behaviour and culture is as naive as pure technological
>determinism.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---------
>>>
>>>> *From:* A forum for critical and radical geographers
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of
>>>> *Featherstone, Dave
>>>> *Sent:* 03 August 2007 14:43
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>
>>>> Ok-
>>>>
>>>> but I think the issue is that this research agenda appears top
>>>> be framed in a way where it appears that terrorism is an issue
>>>> which can be 'designed' out of cities, and that is what would
>>>> appear to be the issue not what the results will
>be.... This kind
>>>> of perspective has been challenged for a whole range of
>>>> questions- but is particularly problematic in relation
>>>>
>>> to issues
>>>
>>>> of terrorism where the relational context is so
>significant... as
>>>> Pete and Salvatore have suggested....
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---------
>>>
>>>> *From:* A forum for critical and radical geographers
>on behalf of
>>>> D F J Wood
>>>> *Sent:* Fri 03/08/2007 14:31
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>
>>>> Before we all get too carried away, it does not
>specify what the
>>>> results of the study should be. I am rather wary of attempts to
>>>> prescribe certain 'objects' of research through
>ideology (whether
>>>> I happen to share that ideology or not). It is
>perfectly possible
>>>> to imagine critical methods and critical results from such a
>>>> study. It's clear that the PI wants critical geogaphers
>>>>
>>> to apply...
>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: A forum for critical and radical geographers
>>>> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salvatore
>>>> >Engel-DiMauro
>>>> >Sent: 03 August 2007 14:23
>>>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>> >
>>>> >i concur entirely. this is preposterous. or, what exactly does
>>>> >such a post have to do with critical geography? it seems
>>>> >counterintuitive to me.
>>>> >
>>>> >saed
>>>> >
>>>> >North, Peter wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How about starting with not trying to dominate the
>>>>
>>> middle east to
>>>
>>>> >> secure the world's diminishing oil stocks?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Peter North
>>>> >> Department of Geography
>>>> >> University of Liverpool
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: A forum for critical and radical geographers on
>>>>
>>> behalf of Jon
>>>
>>>> >> Coaffee
>>>> >> Sent: Fri 03/08/2007 08:27
>>>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >> Subject: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Apologies for cross postings
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Research Associates (two posts)
>>>> >> Resilient Planning, Design and Management for Countering
>>>> >Terrorism in
>>>> >> Public Places - Centre for Urban Policy Studies School of
>>>> >Environment
>>>> >> and Development The University of Manchester
>>>> >> http://www.jobs.ac.uk/jobfiles/ZG027.html
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Closing date: 28/08/2007 Salary - £26,666 - £30,012 p.a.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The School of Environment and Development is seeking
>>>>
>>> to appoint two
>>>
>>>> >> Research Associates to work with the Centre for Urban Policy
>>>> Studies
>>>> >> (CUPS), tenable from October 2007 for 24 months in the first
>>>> >instance.
>>>> >> You will contribute to research connected to an EPSRC funded
>>>> project
>>>> >> focusing on Resilient Design (RE-DESIGN) for
>>>>
>>> counter-terrorism:
>>>
>>>> >> Decision support for designing effective and acceptable
>>>> >resilient places.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You will liaise with the Re-Design team to help
>>>>
>>> develop a unique
>>>
>>>> >> multi- disciplinary research framework for countering
>>>>
>>> terrorism in
>>>
>>>> >> crowded public places.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You will have a PhD (or at least submitted by
>>>>
>>> contract start) in a
>>>
>>>> >> cognate discipline such as urban planning, human geography,
>>>> >political
>>>> >> science, international relations, urban sociology,
>>>> architecture; and
>>>> >> experience of conducting qualitative case study based
>>>> >research to a high standard.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Informal enquiries
>>>> >> Dr Jon Coaffee
>>>> >> Tel: 0161 275 6903
>>>> >> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>>>> >Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>>>> >1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>>>> >tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>>>> >e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >
>>>> >Senior Editor
>>>> >Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>>>> >
>>>> >Editor
>>>> >ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies
>>>> >http://www.acme-journal.org/
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>>> Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>>> tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Senior Editor
>>> Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>>>
>>> Editor
>>> ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies
>>> http://www.acme-journal.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>--
>Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>Senior Editor
>Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>
>Editor
>ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies
>http://www.acme-journal.org/
>
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