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Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester

From:

D F J Wood <[log in to unmask]>

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D F J Wood <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:29:34 +0100

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Don't worry, it's good to have some fire here. You sound like I was when I first turned up on the board in 1999... (have a look in the archives!)

David. 

 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: A forum for critical and radical geographers 
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salvatore 
>Engel-DiMauro
>Sent: 03 August 2007 15:27
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>
>you are right, i am reading too much into the vacancy 
>description. it would be more constructive, however, to have 
>explicit qualification as to the aims of the vacancy and how 
>terrorism is defined, for example. my apologies for sounding 
>offensive and for giving the impression of being suspicious of 
> Jon. i am actually suspicious of the institution, not Jon 
>(and having a job is not the point here, it is what one does 
>with the job that can contribute to an egalitarian society, 
>rather than jobs as ends in themselves). cheers,
>
>saed
>
>D F J Wood wrote:
>> I'd be careful of infering things that aren't there and 
>calling them 'implicit'...
>>
>> Nowhere in the call does it offer a definition of terrorism 
>in general that excludes the sort of terrorism you talk about. 
>Nowhere in the call does in prescribe a set answer either, so 
>asking about Jon's 'strategy' as if he must be ideologically 
>suspect until proved otherwise is rather uncalled for. 
>>
>> I presume you have made a thorough study of Jon's work and 
>are able to offer a comprehensive reading of his political 
>stance to support what you believe is implied?
>>
>> And I am sorry, but just because you happen to be vocal in 
>expressing a particular view on a particular subject does not 
>mean that everyone else who happens to be here is apolitical, 
>unengaged and non-critical. 
>>
>> BTW, do you have a job? ;-)
>>
>> David. 
>>  
>>
>>   
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Salvatore Engel-DiMauro [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> Sent: 03 August 2007 15:09
>>> To: D F J Wood
>>> Cc: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>
>>> right, and what is at stake here is the very material 
>terrorism meted 
>>> out to millions of people in public places, in cities, through the 
>>> sort of terrorism that is conveniently not recognised as 
>such if done 
>>> through state institutions. so, implicitly, the vacancy seems to 
>>> exclude this entirely, as it would contradict the mainstream, 
>>> government view of what counts as terrorism and then also 
>>> problematise the role of the UK government as a terrorist 
>>> organisation in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. but Jon Coaffee should tell 
>>> us what strategy he is aiming at, up front, in recruiting critical 
>>> geographers.
>>> that for me would be reasonable, instead of presuming. what are the 
>>> aims? if only to offer a job, then why in this forum at all?
>>>
>>> saed
>>>
>>> D F J Wood wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Well to some extent this is entirely true - you only have 
>to look at 
>>>> all sorts of research on the influence of new technologies 
>on urban 
>>>> form (Graham and Marvin, 2001; Thrift and French, 2003; some
>>>>       
>>> of my own
>>>     
>>>> work too) to see that one can perfectly well imagine a society in 
>>>> which the ability to socially construct space has been curtailed 
>>>> through material means.  The question is whether we want a
>>>>       
>>> society in
>>>     
>>>> which the fabric of cities becomes more important than social 
>>>> construction. The call specifically mentions environments that are 
>>>> "effective and acceptable." The question of acceptability is not 
>>>> defined tightly here, so I can imagine multiple ethical, 
>political, 
>>>> social, cultural and other standards by which you might 
>judge such a 
>>>> thing. But to argue that form cannot (or indeed should not)
>>>>       
>>> influence
>>>     
>>>> behaviour and culture is as naive as pure technological 
>determinism.
>>>>  
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---------
>>>     
>>>>     *From:* A forum for critical and radical geographers
>>>>     [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of
>>>>     *Featherstone, Dave
>>>>     *Sent:* 03 August 2007 14:43
>>>>     *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>
>>>>     Ok-
>>>>      
>>>>     but I think the issue is that this research agenda appears top
>>>>     be framed in a way where it appears that terrorism is an issue
>>>>     which can be 'designed' out of cities, and that is what would
>>>>     appear to be the issue not what the results will 
>be.... This kind
>>>>     of perspective has been challenged for a whole range of
>>>>     questions-   but is particularly problematic in relation 
>>>>       
>>> to issues
>>>     
>>>>     of terrorism where the relational context is so 
>significant... as
>>>>     Pete and Salvatore have suggested....
>>>>      
>>>>     Dave
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---------
>>>     
>>>>     *From:* A forum for critical and radical geographers 
>on behalf of
>>>>     D F J Wood
>>>>     *Sent:* Fri 03/08/2007 14:31
>>>>     *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>
>>>>     Before we all get too carried away, it does not 
>specify what the
>>>>     results of the study should be. I am rather wary of attempts to
>>>>     prescribe certain 'objects' of research through 
>ideology (whether
>>>>     I happen to share that ideology or not). It is 
>perfectly possible
>>>>     to imagine critical methods and critical results from such a
>>>>     study. It's clear that the PI wants critical geogaphers
>>>>       
>>> to apply...
>>>     
>>>>     David.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     >-----Original Message-----
>>>>     >From: A forum for critical and radical geographers
>>>>     >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salvatore
>>>>     >Engel-DiMauro
>>>>     >Sent: 03 August 2007 14:23
>>>>     >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>     >Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>     >
>>>>     >i concur entirely. this is preposterous. or, what exactly does
>>>>     >such a post have to do with critical geography? it seems
>>>>     >counterintuitive to me.
>>>>     >
>>>>     >saed
>>>>     >
>>>>     >North, Peter wrote:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> How about starting with not trying to dominate the
>>>>       
>>> middle east to
>>>     
>>>>     >> secure the world's diminishing oil stocks?
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> Peter North
>>>>     >> Department of Geography
>>>>     >> University of Liverpool
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>     >> From: A forum for critical and radical geographers on
>>>>       
>>> behalf of Jon
>>>     
>>>>     >> Coaffee
>>>>     >> Sent: Fri 03/08/2007 08:27
>>>>     >> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>     >> Subject: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> Apologies for cross postings
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> Research Associates (two posts)
>>>>     >> Resilient Planning, Design and Management for Countering
>>>>     >Terrorism in
>>>>     >> Public Places - Centre for Urban Policy Studies School of
>>>>     >Environment
>>>>     >> and Development The University of Manchester
>>>>     >> http://www.jobs.ac.uk/jobfiles/ZG027.html
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> Closing date: 28/08/2007 Salary - £26,666 - £30,012 p.a.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> The School of Environment and Development is seeking
>>>>       
>>> to appoint two
>>>     
>>>>     >> Research Associates to work with the Centre for Urban Policy
>>>>     Studies
>>>>     >> (CUPS), tenable from October 2007 for 24 months in the first
>>>>     >instance.
>>>>     >> You will contribute to research connected to an EPSRC funded
>>>>     project
>>>>     >> focusing on Resilient Design (RE-DESIGN) for
>>>>       
>>> counter-terrorism:
>>>     
>>>>     >> Decision support for designing effective and acceptable
>>>>     >resilient places.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> You will liaise with the Re-Design team to help
>>>>       
>>> develop a unique
>>>     
>>>>     >> multi- disciplinary research framework for countering
>>>>       
>>> terrorism in
>>>     
>>>>     >> crowded public places.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> You will have a PhD (or at least submitted by
>>>>       
>>> contract start) in a
>>>     
>>>>     >> cognate discipline such as urban planning, human geography,
>>>>     >political
>>>>     >> science, international relations, urban sociology,
>>>>     architecture; and
>>>>     >> experience of conducting qualitative case study based
>>>>     >research to a high standard.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> Informal enquiries
>>>>     >> Dr Jon Coaffee
>>>>     >> Tel: 0161 275 6903
>>>>     >> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >
>>>>     >--
>>>>     >Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>>>>     >Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>>>>     >1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>>>>     >tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>>>>     >e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>>     >
>>>>     >Senior Editor
>>>>     >Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>>>>     >
>>>>     >Editor
>>>>     >ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies
>>>>     >http://www.acme-journal.org/
>>>>     >
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> --
>>> Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>>> Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>>> tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Senior Editor
>>> Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>>>
>>> Editor
>>> ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies 
>>> http://www.acme-journal.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>
>--
>Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>Senior Editor
>Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>
>Editor
>ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies 
>http://www.acme-journal.org/
>

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