Hardly - in 1986 when I did Army Instruction training, we were told that we had to 'promote and maintatin the desire to learn' in the soldiers under instruction!
Megan
ILT Champion, City of Stoke-on-Trent Sixth Form College... and former Sergeant, The 22nd (Cheshire) Regiment :-)
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From: Virtual Learning Environments on behalf of Ray Tolley
Sent: Wed 11/07/2007 17:23
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VLES] Does anyone have any experience of Desire to Learn?
Yet another new kid on the block? 'Desire to Learn'?
Ray Tolley
ICT Education Consultant
Maximise-ICT
www.maximise-ict.co.uk
Tel: 0191 414 8846
Mob: 07709 7709 45
Skype: ray.tolley
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From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Jacqui Nicol
Sent: 10 July 2007 08:29
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VLES] Does anyone have any experience of Drupal?
Peter,
We're currently in the middle of implementing HarvestRoad Hive with
Moodle. Our content is currently in a bespoke database (with limited
content management). There are essentially two parts to the
implementation - (i) setting up new content management structures and
processes and (ii) importing existing content using scripts to re-create
the existing hierarchy. Although automated to a certain extent we still
anticipate quite a bit of manual work and checking.
***************************************
Jacqui Nicol
eLearning Technologies Development Manager
DELTA (Department for the Enhancement of Learning, Teaching and
Assessment)
The Robert Gordon University
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From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Jacobs - Marty
Sent: 09 July 2007 20:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VLES] Does anyone have any experience of Drupal?
Yeah, didn't mean to suggest you couldn't use Moodle to deliver your
school website, I just don't think its a good idea IMHO. I'm aware of
the CMS plugin, but I don't really like the way it does things.
We don't need SSO with the website because students don't need to login
to it (that's what Moodle is for). However, this could be easily
achieved (I'm kinda doing SSO by using ldap to allow staff to edit some
of the web pages).
The big advantage that Drupal has over Moodle/CMS module is that it has
a very powerful taxonomy module that takes a lot of the pain out of
setting up hyperlinks, doing most of it automatically for you.
Like Niki mentioned, what tools you use and how you use them should be
dictated by your institutions targets. If Moodle doesn't do something
nicely, we shouldn't just make the shoe fit.
Marty
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From: Virtual Learning Environments on behalf of Michael Penney
Sent: Mon 7/9/2007 5:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VLES] Does anyone have any experience of Drupal?
On Jul 9, 2007, at 7:05 AM, Jacobs - Marty wrote:
> Moodle isn't very good at running a school/college website (to be
> fair to Moodle it is not designed to do this),
The University of York's Math Dept. site looks pretty nice, using
Moodle's Content Management System plug-in. Advantage is you get SSO
between your 'sites' and your 'courses' and a single codebase to manage.
http://maths.york.ac.uk/www/Home
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=55349
http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?d=13&rid=500
If you change the language files to say 'site' rather than 'course',
and set up 'sites' with open access (autologin guests, etc.), then
Moodle can work well as a school website. Much of the difference is
semantics, I think, in Drupal you might have one open site that all
can see, and perhaps departmental or group sites off the main site
with different access or different administrators. These can be set
up as 'courses' in Moodle and linked via the CMS plug-in or even just
using HTML blocks.
Not that there is anything wrong with using Drupal and Moodle, of
course, however there are plenty of situations where limited
resources or a need for tight integration between school/dept/faculty
sites and courses leads folks to do both public sites and courses
with Moodle. With the new Moodle networking code, you have even more
possibilities, as you can have SSO integration between Moodle sites
set up as public web sites and Moodle sites set up as traditional
course management systems.
http://docs.moodle.org/en/Moodle_Network#Overview
Best
Michael
> Marty
>
> From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Peter Mudd
> Sent: 09 July 2007 14:52
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VLES] Does anyone have any experience of Drupal?
>
> May I ask why people are interested in such things when we are told
> that Moodle has all these facilities now?
>
>
>
> Peter
>
> From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Jacobs - Marty
> Sent: 09 July 2007 14:27
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VLES] Does anyone have any experience of Drupal?
>
>
>
> We're switching over to Drupal this summer (from Joomla). I've used
> it for other sites in the past because it has a clean code-base,
> great user community and a load of cool third party modules. The
> latest version of Drupal works well and is relatively easy to setup
> (if you're used to PHP/MySQL web apps that is). What do you mean by
> social networking tools? Forums and blogs work out of the box, but
> for more complex features you'll have to start experimenting with
> third party modules.
>
>
>
> I think Drupal does a very good job at organising content, much
> better the Joomla. You may want to look at installing a third party
> module called "Views" to help your organise your site into easy to
> maintain sections.
>
>
>
> HLH,
>
>
>
> Marty
>
>
>
> From: Virtual Learning Environments [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Peter Trethewey
> Sent: 09 July 2007 13:47
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [VLES] Does anyone have any experience of Drupal?
>
> I would be pleased to hear from anyone who has implemented Drupal.
> Is it easy to set up? Do the social networking functions work? Is
> it easy to maintain? Does it organise content well?
>
>
>
> All replies gratefully received
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Peter Trethewey
> 07786 163215
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