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Subject:

Re: Twinning in C2 ?

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"Demetres D. Leonidas" <[log in to unmask]>

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Demetres D. Leonidas

Date:

Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:52:21 +0300

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Dear Eleanor,

Yes the native is a dimer and we did the search using the dimer as a 
model but we had similar results (i.e. all programs find one molecule). 
The graphs from TRUNCATE show rather "normal" and I am attaching a gif 
file with the plot for the cumulative intensity.

As for pseudo-translation running the "Analyse Data for MR" option in 
ccp4 in the patterson map we are getting a significant peak at 
fractional coordinates 0.4897 0.0 0.4767. How this can help ? Do we need 
to apply this pseudo translation to the solution we are getting from 
molrep ?

many thanks

Demetres

P.S. I will summarize for the members of the list all the suggestions I 
will get at the end


Eleanor Dodson wrote:
> You dont say whether the molecules in the native cell form a dimer - 
> if so I would search with that (you may need to turn off the packing 
> search)
>
> Or whether there is a pseudo translation vector in the mutant form..
>
> Or what the data analysis graphs from TRUNCATE show - are they "normal"?
>
> Eleanor
>
> Demetres D. Leonidas wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> we have encountered a problem in solving one mutant structure. The 
>> mutant protein crystallizes in the same space group as the native 
>> (C2) but the unit cell dimensions are different. These for the native 
>> structure are 101.2 33.1 73.4 90 90.3 90 and for the mutant 160.4 
>> 32.3 107.0 90 125.7 90. As a result the mutant structure has  four 
>> molecules in the asymmetric unit while the native had two. When we 
>> run molecular replacement all programs (CNS, molrep, and amore) find 
>> only two molecules. Phaser finds four but when we try to refine the 
>> Rfree does not drop below 0.44 if we use four molecules and 0.53 if 
>> we only use two no matter how well we built the molecule and 
>> regardless of any addition of water molecules (the resolution of the 
>> data is 2.1). The interesting thing is that in the electron density 
>> map we can clearly see density for a substrate analog that was 
>> included in the crystallization media. Do you thing  that we have a 
>> case of twinning here ? We have to mention that Tod Yates served did 
>> not indicate any perfect merohedral twinning (partial merohedral 
>> twinning for this space group is not possible).
>>
>> We would appreciate any comments
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Demetres
>>
>
>

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Structural Biology & Chemistry Group
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