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Re: Post Hoc Tests to a linear contrast in SPM2

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Ged Ridgway <[log in to unmask]>

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Ged Ridgway <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:20:37 +0100

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Hi Katherina,

I hope you don't mind me CCing this back to the list -- it seems 
better that way, since I might be talking nonsense, and/or someone 
else might have some better ideas. Also, on the rare chance that I 
might be saying something both right and useful, the list archives 
could then be of some help to others later.

> the save button saves T-values according to the whole brain threshold, 
> not the ROI correction.

Okay... I've just checked this and it's the same in SPM5 anyway. Well, 
I don't know if it works with SPM2, but I've seen that Matthew Brett's 
VolCorr program can output t-thresholds for a given alpha-level 
small-volume correction.
   http://imaging.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/imaging/VolCorr
You could then use imcalc to threshold the spmT at this level, and 
multiply it by the ROI mask, giving a resulting mask of voxels that 
you are interested in.

> It's not the intersection of two masks that I need.
> I need exactly what I described in the last part: Take only the voxels 
> that were significant in the first contrast, but correct their contrast 
> values for the whole volume of the ROI.

Ah, so just using the first (ROI-corrected) contrast to mask the 
second (also ROI-corrected; and without changing the correction), 
right? I think the second contrast's SVC-corrected p-values will be 
independent of the first contrast in that case, so I guess you are 
just concerned about knowing which of them was significant for the 
first and which wasn't (rather than changing their values).

If you just want to find the set of significant voxels, I think you 
could analyse both contrasts separately, with SVC over the ROI you are 
interested in, and create masks for each of their significant voxels, 
as described above, and *then* take the intersection of those masks. 
I.e. the voxels that are significant in both contrasts, when each 
contrast is corrected for the ROI.

If you want the p-values for just these voxels, and it's too 
time-consuming to look through the lists for the separate contrasts, 
then I think some slightly fiddly programming would be necessary...

spm_VOI computes the search volume etc. for the ROI, and also the list 
of voxel values and coordinates. You could perhaps adapt spm_VOI to 
use a second mask (taken from the results of your first contrast) i.e. 
in line 112:
   j     = find(spm_sample_vol(D, XYZ(1,:), XYZ(2,:), XYZ(3,:),0) > 0);
use D2 instead of D, after something like:
   Msk2 = spm_get(1,'.img','Image defining voxels of interest');
   D2 = spm_vol(Msk2);

This should leave k (and hence S; and Ps(k) if using FDR) coming from 
the original mask, but with j being only the voxels that were 
significant in contrast 1. The resel count R will be done using the 
ROI mask (D), so that should be correct as well.  I think this should 
be right, but I haven't tested it at all... Hopefully others on the 
list might comment on its validity or lack thereof.

Sorry if I still haven't understood you correctly!

Best,
Ged.

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