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Re: Audio Visual Supplier Selection

From:

Peter Hebdon <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:26:56 +0100

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I agree, we seem to be living in the real world that where savings are
rarely reinvested in the service, the MLA and others come across as living
in a fantasy world  where services get their savings back.

I am yet to be convinced that other than at a very superficial level
supplier select can achieve the ends suggested in terms of better stock
selection, what can be achieved is to ensure those in an authority who can
do 'good' stock selection have the most streamlined mechanisms available to
them within that library system, as they have the knowledge and contact
with the customers

Peter Hebdon
Senior Librarian, Fiction & Reader Development

Wallsend Library
Ferndale Road
Wallsend
NE28 7NB

Tel:      0191 200 6968
Fax:     0191 200 6967
Email:   [log in to unmask]

Unless otherwise stated, opinions, conclusions and other information
expressed in this message are personal and not those of North Tyneside
Council



                                                                                                                                           
                      "Pearson, David (ACS,                                                                                                
                      Cultural Services)"          To:       Peter Hebdon/Cultural Services/ECS/ntc@ntc, [log in to unmask]       
                      <DPearson@worcestersh        cc:                                                                                     
                      ire.gov.uk>                  Subject:  RE: Audio Visual Supplier Selection                                           
                                                                                                                                           
                      23/07/2007 11:10                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                           



Indeed - and this takes us back to the beginning again, and whether the
whole will actually produce "better stock".  Centralising (and this is a
personal view) through the MLA initiative may streamline processes, but I
still cannot see anything other than an opportunity for our Procurement
Officers to use these potential savings against the financial problems
authorities may have - they aren't going to channel £50k or whatever into
buying new stock or additional stock.  Therefore the only way to produce a
better stock is to improve the selection process, and that brings us back
to the initial question about whether supplier selection can or will
actually achieve that ...


David S. Pearson
Service Development Manager (Stock & Social Inclusion)
01905 428945
[log in to unmask]



-----Original Message-----
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Peter Hebdon
Sent: 23 July 2007 09:34
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Audio Visual Supplier Selection


By definition a better stock has to result in better use, and potentially
better issues or am I missing the point about having a supposedly better
stock via centralised buying

Peter Hebdon
Senior Librarian, Fiction & Reader Development

Wallsend Library
Ferndale Road
Wallsend
NE28 7NB

Tel:      0191 200 6968
Fax:     0191 200 6967
Email:   [log in to unmask]

Unless otherwise stated, opinions, conclusions and other information
expressed in this message are personal and not those of North Tyneside
Council



                      Frances Hendrix
                      <frances@laserfoundat        To:       Peter
Hebdon/Cultural Services/ECS/ntc@ntc, [log in to unmask]
                      ion.org.uk>                  cc:
                                                   Subject:  RE: Audio
Visual Supplier Selection
                      23/07/2007 09:17



I have missed where I or anyone has suggested the PwC Better Stock
programme would increase issues., and I agree issues are the NOT the
only indicator of a good service.

However if librarians had less time spent on routine work they could
spend more time on developing reading and other activities, engaging
more with non and disaffected readers, and this in turn could actually
put up issues. The fact that issues counting is so highlighted is due to
the fact that Impart and Value measures are either not used by libraries
(not all of them any way), and when they are they are not promoted
sufficiently to indicate the impact the total library service has on a
community.

f

-----Original Message-----
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Hebdon
Sent: 23 July 2007 09:01
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Audio Visual Supplier Selection

The point has been missed, I never said that we were doing anything
wrong, what I said was where was the evidence that supplier select and
centralised buying in the MLA model was going to improve issues!

Peter Hebdon
Senior Librarian, Fiction & Reader Development

Wallsend Library
Ferndale Road
Wallsend
NE28 7NB

Tel:      0191 200 6968
Fax:     0191 200 6967
Email:   [log in to unmask]

Unless otherwise stated, opinions, conclusions and other information
expressed in this message are personal and not those of North Tyneside
Council





                      David McMenemy

                      <[log in to unmask]        To:
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                      RATH.AC.UK>                   cc:       (bcc:
Peter Hebdon/Cultural Services/ECS/ntc)
                      Sent by:                      Subject:  Re: Audio
Visual Supplier Selection
                      "lis-pub-libs: UK

                      Public Libraries"

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                      .AC.UK>





                      20/07/2007 16:34

                      Please respond to

                      David McMenemy








Why does it HAVE to be the destination of choice?  Why do you assume
that library issues are decreasing because we are doing something wrong?
I'm afraid I'm with Archibald MacLeish when he says:

"What is more important in a library than anything else - than
everything else - is the fact that it exists."

We've been enlightened enough for 150 years to understand that.  What's
changed?

> Are issues the bee all and end all of what a 21st century library is
> all about
>
> The competition out there for reading material is quite severe, it is
> easy to go else where. How are we going to make libraries the
> destination of choice?
>
> Library staff have had the decisions for 150 years, and we are where
> we are?
> f
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Hebdon
> Sent: 20 July 2007 15:00
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Audio Visual Supplier Selection
>
> I have followed this thread with interest, and now have some
questions:
>
> Some libraries may still have large staffing budgets but others have
> already made savings in this area and increased opening hours, so on
> what basis are these 'savings' going to be made.
>
> How can someone based somewhere in the country buy not just for 149
> library authorities but all their service points, without simply
> making us another branch of Borders or Waterstones, you can write as
> many profiles as you want it will never replace the knowledge and
> expertise of the people on the spot.
>
> Given that we are all trying to raise issues, what evidence that this
> centralised buying will increase issues?
> Experiments with fiction via 'Branching Out' do not appear conclusive
> in this area.
>
> I would suggest that the MLA and  others should for once actually let
> the library staff, librarians etc decide for themselves how we will
> deliver our service to our communities, as many of the ideas come from

> people with little or no knowledge of how libraries work and interact
> with their communities.
>
> Peter Hebdon
> Senior Librarian, Fiction & Reader Development
>
> Wallsend Library
> Ferndale Road
> Wallsend
> NE28 7NB
>
> Tel:      0191 200 6968
> Fax:     0191 200 6967
> Email:   [log in to unmask]
>
> Unless otherwise stated, opinions, conclusions and other information
> expressed in this message are personal and not those of North Tyneside

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