Dear all

I suspect that disposal of students' work is pretty commonplace - the
space problems in universities are as bad, if not worse, as everywhere
else.

There is, I think, an organisation of all the heads of university
archaeology departments in the UK. Maybe this is an issue the HER etc
world could ask them to look at. (It's part of the much wider 'grey
literature' problem, of course). Someone like Tim Darvill might well be
interested in this problem.

Roger M Thomas

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HI
Due to past experience, we now insist that we won't give students
quantities of SMR data until the student has signed an agreement to give
us a copy of the work arising from it.  It isn't fool proof but it
helps!

Val
Val Turner
Regional Archaeologist, Shetland

Shetland Amenity Trust
Garthspool
Lerwick
Shetland     ZE1 ONY
01595 694688


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I am not sure. May be we need to find out. 

Victoria
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I am quite amazed and annoyed by that.

Amazed because if the students have done any fieldwork, the university
is destroying the primary archive of what may be the only work done for
an area.

Annoyed because university researchers are often the most demanding of
HER's in terms of expecting us to give them everything on a plate. But
their institutions are not willing, apparently, to accept their role and
responsibility in disseminating and curating research.

It doesn't matter if the work isn't very good or well presented, if its
the only thing known about a site it is important and useful.

Is this a common policy for all universities?

best wishes

Nick Boldrini
Historic Environment Record Officer
Heritage and Environment Section
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>>> Gregory Chuter <[log in to unmask]> 17/07/2007 15:22
>>>
Victoria, we are currently discussing with our local university a
scheme
by which we can archive HER relevant student projects as grey reports
on
our HER. Rather alarmingly at the moment the university only archives
its PhD material and the diploma, BA and MA projects are destroyed.

Greg Chuter,
Archaeologist
East Sussex County Council, Transport and Environment, County Hall, St
Anne's Crescent, Lewes, East Sussex BN7 1UE 
Tel: 01273 481608, Fax: 01273 479536, E-mail:
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Dear All

Please can any one help me with this. I am trying to find out

1. How many HERs have any sort of formal agreement with archaeology
departments in British Universities (ie on the same campus or
affiliated
or teach courses) 

2. How many curatorial archaeologists have any sort of formal
agreement
with archaeology departments in British Universities (ie on the same
campus or affiliated or teach courses) 

3. How many commercial archaeological organisations have any sort of
formal agreement with archaeology departments in British Universities
(ie on the same campus or affiliated or teach courses).

If you know either directly or indirectlyI would be grateful for any
inforamtion

Thanks 

Victoria Bryant 
Historic Environment Record Manager
Worcestershire Historic Environment and Archaeology Service 




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