It's not that grocery lists aren't interesting. But then Warhol didn't
imagine he was writing poetry, just collecting ephemera. And Warhol didn't
believe in depth, Stafford did.
jd
On 6/13/07, Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Re.: Grocery List :
> that is more or less what is in Andy Warhol diaries, I do have the big
> fat book here_
>
>
> On 6/13/07, Joseph Duemer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > That's true of many poets. I think William Stafford would have been
> > well-served by an editor who said (about 60% of the time), "Well, Bill,
> this
> > is pretty weak stuff -- you shouldn't publish it." But there was a
> moment in
> > American poetry when Stafford was a god, at least in some circles, and
> he
> > could have published his grocery lists to great acclaim.
> >
> > jd
> >
> > On 6/12/07, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > So have I. Let's just say that he could use an editor.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > At 04:20 PM 6/12/2007, you wrote:
> > > >Well, Jennifer, the "stuff/stiff" play is clever, but I'd wager that
> > > >reputation-making critics Marjorie Perloff and Harold Bloom have read
> > > with
> > > >considerable interest a large percentage of Kinsella's
> "reams". Barry
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:26:40 +1000, Jennifer Compton
> > > ><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >insomniac vegan poets tend to write reams of stuff - reams of stiff
> no
> > > one
> > > > >wants to read
> > > > >
> > > > >reams!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----Original Message Follows----
> > > > >From: Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Reply-To: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" <[log in to unmask]
> >
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: John Kinsella
> > > > >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:13:07 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >Yes, the few time he talked to me about his early life, as well as
> his
> > > >first
> > > > >memoir, certainly suggested a wild life in his tees.
> > > > >
> > > > >And he certainly doesn't sleep much, & is now a vegan (or was when
> he
> > > >stayed
> > > > >with us years ago). So he managed to read a few books while we
> slept,
> > > &
> > > > >discovered, as a result, Phyllis Webb, about whom he asked the next
> > > day,
> > > > >'Why haven't I ever heard of this great poet before?' I had told
> him
> > > she
> > > >was
> > > > >my choice for Canada's first Nobel....
> > > > >
> > > > >Doug
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joseph Duemer
> > Professor of Humanities
> > Clarkson University
> > [sharpsand.net]
> >
>
--
Joseph Duemer
Professor of Humanities
Clarkson University
[sharpsand.net]
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