Dear Ruth,
I guess the difference between the supervising and the co-authorship
network is that co-authoring is a lot more open than supervising and
hence more network-like.
What you are missing with the tree of supervision is people like me,
that are formally supervised by someone external to the space syntax
community, but I do use a lot of space syntax in my PhD and I discuss my
work with Alan, so in a way he is supervising, without being my formal
supervisor. But as we have published papers together, you would find a
link in co-author networks between the two of us.
BTW, I know that the Social Network community (INSNA - international
network of social network analysis) repeatedly researches their own
patterns of networking at their annual sunbelt conferences. This
research is a cooperation between Timothy Huerta (University of British
Columbia), Ines Mergel (Harvard) and Jennifer van Stelle (Stanford) and
I guess they have published their work somewhere.
Cheers,
Kerstin
Ruth Conroy Dalton wrote:
> I have seen multi-rooted 'trees' in other academic geneology archives;
> these can only occur if a student has been jointly supervised, to the
> extent that both academics are 'cited' as being co-supervisors. I don't
> think that we permit joint-first supervisors at UCL, but perhaps other
> institutions do.
>
> Of course - if we could put in links to include second supervisors and
> then some kind of tertiary link for external examiners, it could get
> much more 'networky' and less dendritic. (If I put this into Pajek, I
> could use edge-weights for these - 3 for primary supervisor, 2 for
> secondary supervisor and 1 for an external examiner...)
>
> I wonder what the relationship between the geneological tree and the
> co-author network would look like? On the one hand, it is not uncommon
> to publish with one's supervisor, however, I would imagine that the
> co-author network might be more concentrated on 'inter-generational'
> links (i.e. you are more likely to publish with your 'peers' than your
> 'parents'). However, I've not thought this through too deeply. It's
> interesting that space syntax talks about social networks all the time
> and yet we do not stop to study our own. Is this a case of shoemaker's
> children being ill-shod or is it another phenomenon?
>
> Ruth
>
> ps - I've had a few in so far - more would be welcome.
>
>
>> Well given that the family tree is a tree then the most integrated
>> person is going to be either the root or in the case of a multi rooted
>> tree the root with most connections.
>>
>> Luacs's co-citation network would most likely to be more interesting
>> from the integration point of view.
>>
>> sheep
>>
>>
>> On 4 Apr 2007, at 18:42, Frederico de Holanda wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Ruth, please find bilow the information.
>>> Regards
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Frederico de Holanda
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>>> *Subject:* Academic 'Family Tree'
>>>
>>>
>>> For the purposes of a paper I am writing and, mostly, purely for
>>> reasons of interest, I am trying to put together the 'academic
>>> family tree' for space syntax. Many other fields have done this -
>>> the most detailed example is the mathematical one, which can be
>>> found at http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/
>>>
>>>
>>> Barsically, for those who don't know, one's academic 'parent' is
>>> your doctoral supervisor (PhD, I'm afraid, masters do not count)
>>> and your own students, upon successful completion, are your
>>> 'children'. So far I have been putting together the primary UCL
>>> branches, but I'd now like to hear from anyone who has a PhD
>>> which mostly uses space syntax methods (please use sensible
>>> judgement here), equally, if you have supervised such PhDs, a
>>> list of your completed students. Once I have put this together, I
>>> will place the results online, so that it can be searchable.
>>>
>>>
>>> So - if you ever wanted to know your parents, nephews, or second
>>> cousins twice removed, then this is how to find out!
>>>
>>>
>>> Ideally I'd like
>>>
>>>
>>> Name: Frederico de Holanda
>>>
>>> Year of PhD thesis: 1997
>>>
>>> Title of thesis: Exceptional space
>>>
>>> Supervisor: Bill Hillier
>>>
>>>
>>> (But it's the name and supervisor that are most important)
>>>
>>>
>>> (In the American system, this would be the chair of your
>>> committee or in the UK system your primary supervisor).
>>>
>>>
>>> For those interested,
>>>
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_genealogy
>>>
>>>
>>> There are some good links from the Wikipedia entry. I
>>> particularly like the neurology one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just think - if we eventually have the full network, we could
>>> identify the most 'integrated' individuals!
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way, my hunch is that we've made it to four generations
>>> already - but there may be a few surprises. Please respond.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Ruth
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