OK Lynsey, scientists are allowed to go to parties and wear what they
consider to be stylish clothes, but please tell me that you don't yearn to
be America's next top model!
Lesley
> You aren't alone! I was an astronomer - absolutely no need for a white
> coat, but very much a "real" scientist. I also liked going to parties
> and looking stylish...
>
> On 4/25/07, Lyndsey Clark <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I the only physicist on the list who would certainly have considered
>> myself a 'real' and proud scientist (back then) but never ever wore a
>> white
>> coat?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sara Fletcher
>> Sent: 25 April 2007 09:00
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] white coat - icon for science?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have no problem with the white coat, but surely the point is that
>> anyone
>> can wear one?! If the message (massage?!) is that scientists are "really
>> special people" who have beards, surely that implies scientists are old
>> men,
>> surely not encouragement for getting women and younger people into
>> science?!
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/07, Lesley Newson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> If the goal is to make young people excited about science careers, there
>> needs to be a pride in the symbols that identify one as a scientist.
>> Why
>> be ashamed of the beard and white coat?
>>
>> If we put over the massage "scientists are just like everyone else and
>> they care about looking stylish and going to parties, etc.", we fail to
>> put over the more important message which is, "scientists are really
>> special people who are concerned about more important things than
>> looking
>> stylish and clean-shaven. That's why they work so hard and with such
>> dedication."
>>
>> Science in Britain seems determined to try the same promotion tactics as
>> the Church of England. The Church worked hard to put over the idea that
>> vicars often wear trendy clothes and many of them don't even believe in
>> God. This didn't do much to encourage young people to enter the clergy,
>> did it?
>>
>> Lesley
>>
>> > I can remember the excitement back in 1968 when I first entered
>> graduate
>> > school when they passed out the white coats. It was like receiving my
>> > letterman's jacket in football in high school. It quickly wore out --
>> the
>> > excitement and pleasure, but they were still the uniform for certain
>> > formal
>> > occasions.
>> >
>> > We even wore them when a large contingent from the school marched to
>> > downtown Chicago to protest the war in Viet Nam.
>> >
>> > You were looking for ancient history, right?
>> >
>> > Roger
>> >
>> >> Well Michael,
>> >>
>> >> From that statement, it is clear you are not a scientist! I guess it
>> >> must
>> >> be possible to be a good communicator of science without
>> understanding
>> >> the
>> >> pride of wearing a white coat!
>> >>
>> >> It may not be a symbol any more but when I realised that I was a
>> >> scientist, it gave me a thrill to wear it. Does anyone else
>> understand
>> >> this?
>> >>
>> >> Lesley
>> >
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