Don't know what happened there. Anyway, Staff room and Dis-forum. See message below that was sent from Dave Laycock in Nov 2000 list owener at the time. (Took seconds to find by the way, I'm not that anal).
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:20:02 -0000
Reply-To: "Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff."
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Sender: "Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff."
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From: David Laycock <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: University of Westminster
Subject: using dis-forum
Sarah apologised before sending a joke to the list when she had no
reason to do so. Can I remind everyone, particularly new members,
that dis-forum was created to be the electronic staff room for
disability officers (or whatever they prefer to be called) who are
otherwise relatively isolated. As a maths lecturer I regularly used a
staff room which was a vital part of the way we, as a department,
did our work. A lot of what happened was serious stuff but some of
it was lighthearted. I know there are many more DOs today than
when dis-forum was created in 1995, and we are all very busy,
often unreasonably so, which is why NADO has been formed, but
let's not lose our sense of humour or we are really stuffed.
Dave Laycock
Head of CCPD
Computer Centre for People with Disabilities
University of Westminster
72 Great Portland Street
London W1N 5AL
Bryan Jones,
Manager, Disability Support Services
& North London Regional Access Centre,
Middlesex University
Tel: 020 8411 5366
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Jones
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 2:00 PM
To: 'Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.'
Subject: RE: Message from the list owner
T the risk
Bryan Jones,
Manager, Disability Support Services
& North London Regional Access Centre,
Middlesex University
Tel: 020 8411 5366
-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of alex larg
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Message from the list owner
Hi Rhun,
I appreciate the point you are making but I would say do you have to be disabled to be a disability officer or an assessor?
I would say no as long as you listen to what the disabled community says to you and take into account the varying, differing and sometimes conflicting views in terms of adjustments that people need and request. I also think that it is important to give as many possible and different opportunities for feedback as possible as we know how difficult the important monitoring and evaluation process is and how difficult it can be to collect that information so we can act up it when necessary.
With respect you are also assuming that I am not currently a student as well as working for a living. Many people have to do both nowadays as you know.
I have had a quick look and cannot find any jiscmail based discussion lists related to what I am suggesting apart from dis-forum. But then some people perceive dis-forum as a "staff" room which may not be very welcoming for students and others. The list owner, Paul, has clarified this though and made it clear that it is open to anybody with an interest in disability and HE.
Is it a bad thing to provide another opportunity for discussion and sharing of ideas and issues as long as this is managed positively, constructively and with accessibility in mind and in practice?
Best wishes,
Alex
Alex Larg
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07931 561 877 or 07916 175 077
Freelance Assistive Technology Trainer
Freelance study needs assessor
Former Disability Officer
On 20/4/07 19:34, "Rhun Ap Harri [rha]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear DisForum
>
> I'm all for what students want to do.
>
> Owning and moderating a Jiscmail forum for students by anyone other
> than a student is beyond my understanding of independence.
>
> Students could well have a forum somewhere anyway.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rhun
>
>
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> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> on behalf of alex larg
> Sent: Fri 20/04/2007 16:32
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Message from the list owner
>
>
> Paul,
>
> I have been discussing with a number of students the possibility of
> setting up a new jiscmail forum for students to discuss disability and
> study related issues. I love your suggestion of dis-tracted! I
> sometime feel dis-heartened, but we were thinking of a list called
> "Student Voice".
>
> I think its purpose would be for students to discuss issues that they
> have experienced or perceived around both DSA and HE / FE study,
> although these things often work best when they organically evolve by
> themselves. This could give a forum for students to air their views
> and have their say in the safe knowledge that they could speak freely
> without fear of comeback which is a concern that has been expressed by
> students on dis-forum previously. Constructive feedback could be
> gathered and fed back to QAG / DfES / Skill etc. I would be willing to
> moderate and own the list. I am an independent freelance trainer,
> mainly, and so could do this without prejudice.
>
> I would imagine that the good people out there, including myself,
> would like to thank you for your work in the background which is
> essential to the management and smooth running of dis-forum.
>
> Have a good weekend and cheers everybody,
>
> Alex
> 07931 561 877 or 07916 175 077
> Freelance Assistive Technology Trainer
> Former Disability Officer
> MNADP
>
>
>
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>
>
>> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:18:20 +0100
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Message from the list owner
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Like most people, I have a job to do that takes 110% of my time, so
>> it leaves little to devote to mailing list issues. That's my excuse
>> for being silent up to now....
>>
>> First I'd like to point out to everybody (all 862 of you) that the
>> acceptable use policy for JISCmail lists, emailed when you joined, is
>> available at:
>>
>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/policy/index.htm#about
>>
>> and a guide to etiquette can be found here:
>>
>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/policy/etiquette.htm
>>
>>
>> Secondly, I have received two emails of complaint about the content
>> of a particular thread from earlier in the week and a couple
>> expressing concern that dis-forum is veering away from being the
>> useful source of information and discussion that it has always been.
>>
>> I feel little would be achieved by 'raking over the coals'. However,
>> I do feel it's appropriate to repost, below, an email sent to another
>> list, by a colleague, Nicki Martin:
>>
>> "I am pleased to see this comment about careful use of language in
>> emails so we don't come across as aggressive. Thanks for this. It is
>> really easy to fire off a comment, especially if it's something which
>> evokes strong feelings. We are all really hard working and very keen
>> to get it right in order to improve things for disabled students, so
>> strong feelings, frustration, exasperation, radical ideas etc are
>> inevitably often part of this.
>>
>> A few seconds to re-read before pressing send to check tone and
>> content will save us all a lot of hassle and upset in the long run. I
>> also feel it will stop members from disengaging with the list on
>> occasion because of its tone. Hope this is helpful. That is my
>> intention."
>>
>>
>> I'd also like to state that dis-forum is not a virtual staff room.
>> Since its inception in 1995 it has always been open to anybody with
>> an interest in disability and Higher Education, regardless of their
>> status. Staff working in the sector may find the list offered by
>> NADP, to their members, an additional useful resource.
>>
>> Those of you using Outlook may like to get to grips with the 'Rules
>> and Alerts' option on the Tools menu. I use it to divert my list mail
>> to folders automatically. This means I dip into the dialogues when I
>> have time but, in the meantime, it doesn't interfere with my day job.
>>
>> Finally, I'd like to draw a line under the activities of the week and
>> suggest that, when such strong feelings are evoked on issues, it can
>> indicate the need for another list or group. Anybody feel like
>> creating a new list? What should we call it? I'll start off this
>> Friday afternoon by suggesting dis-tracted! :-)
>>
>> Paul Dilley
>> CLASS Manager
>> University of Westminster
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